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May 9th, 2018, 02:03 PM   #671
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I have never been other than serious with you Kesh. I don't take anything said here lightly when it comes to this situation, I value my reputation. You have very effectively fabricated the narrative that if JK, Mdub, Synn, Rog, big sparrows (insert boogyman here__) has ever bothered you that therefore Jumkie is your enemy. It has worked in some cases, I'm still rather miffed that Iampony, whom I've not had any substantial interaction with would take your side on the use of a racial slur, then declare his refusal to read my post for the explanation, and skip to conclude based on "logic" that since he has never heard of it, therefore its not real.

My word is bond because I know it has consequences for relationships. There is a reason I'm so adamant about offering friends everything I have to give, I've been privy through example that it can some day even save a life.


You say you've put others on ignore, except you continue to troll them, on this very thread, directly and indirectly, reacting with increasing anger, high-fiving those that engage favorably to your flame war (go no further than this page) and continue to destroy threads. This one is now gone thanks to you.

I will not accept the enabling you get from a lack of courage to call you out by name characterizing this as a 'feud', you are the perpetrator of conflict, nobody needs to go back as far as the start of the season, just scroll up to see how this thread was derailed in post #616 by YOU.

You insist on making wild accusations which is exactly how we got here! This is the crux of your provocations! You instigated by making paranoid accusations as to the identity of Yama San, Synn, Rog, and now BigSparrows (not before making your loaded attacks of course, never miss an opportunity for provocation); you were spectacularly wrong, even after respected members corrected you. Noteworthy it should be said, you are undeterred still insisting on employing irrational suspicion and cynicism, I conclude you do this purposefully! If not me, listen to MikeM regarding the upheaval such foolish speculation creates. Though it serves you well to do so, provocation is useful to you. You gain plenty of mileage from provocations Kesh, even a fascinating social dynamic that makes you feel supported.

Now again, you insist in making the same provocations, you refuse to learn from your 'mistakes' (assuming they are mistakes and not done purposefully, which is increasingly evident). I've challenged you to keep your word, and to add gravity to this challenge, I propose putting our participation in this forum on the line. I'm aware that no one can be forced off this forum, all that is being asked of you is to stop instigating flame wars, to put your word on it with consequence, not just with me, but with others. Take your own pledge instead of stating as you have above that you intend to continue trolling and flame warring.

Honor your non-trolling stop feeding the troll pledge. I am just another troll according to you Why should I get special treatment? Honor your pledge then and stop the trolling-reacting cycle and stop responding to me. Its your pledge, honor it.
So don't accept reality. See any indication that I care??? Clearly as Pov has indicated - you enjoy the drama too much to put it aside. You're one of those people who is entranced by the sound of his own voice. Otherwise - you would shut the fuck up. So it's more type type type.

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May 9th, 2018, 02:06 PM   #672
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Clearly as Pov has indicated - you enjoy the drama too much to shut up. Otherwise - you would do so. So it's more type type type. You're hopeless.
50 year old registered sex offender and general failure in life calls others hopeless. millions die laughing.

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There was never any dispute as to Ben being supported by Yamaha (he had a Yamaha contract, after all). My point was that he wasn't getting what JL and VR got.


Rossi and JL actually had already signed for the factory team at that point. Unless you have evidence that Fiat Yamaha wanted a three rider team with Ben, I understood it to be a forward-looking rule (prompted by Ben's entry to the premier class). I'll withdraw my point for Ben if you can demonstrate that Fiat Yamaha was going to expand to a three rider effort for 2010.


Can you provide the link? I recall that he had factory help, but I didn't know he had the same gear as Casey and Dani (I'm not sure how Dovi was treated in 2011 at Repsol).
You’re absolutely correct, the Spies rule never affected 1 rider including Spies himself.
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May 9th, 2018, 11:13 PM   #674
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50 year old registered sex offender and general failure in life calls others hopeless. millions die laughing.

More at 11.
You dont seem anywhere near mature enough to be 50!
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You’re absolutely correct, the Spies rule never affected 1 rider including Spies himself.
Well, he was wrong about Marco Simoncelli, and according to Lin Jarvis, Spies was put on a satellite team because of the rules - Sportbike
Also quoted here, that he was going to a satellite because of the rules. - Crash
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Lin Jarvis, Managing Director of Yamaha Motor Racing and the point man for Yamaha’s MotoGP efforts, is obviously salivating at the future of having one of the sport’s rising superstars helping to keep them on top in MotoGP. “We are truly excited about the prospect of Ben’s arrival into our future MotoGP program,” said Jarvis. “Ben is doing a great job for Yamaha in his first season in the World Superbike Championship. He is in great shape to challenge for the title this year and we will be rooting for him at the remaining four events this season. Ben’s primary mission is to win both his and Yamaha’s first World Superbike title. After that when Ben eventually makes the move to the MotoGP championship we will be ready for him and, in line with the new MotoGP regulations, we will create a place for him within the Yamaha satellite team and give him the support he needs for his next challenge.
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You dont seem anywhere near mature enough to be 50!
Hahaha!...synn getting owned again!
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Well, he was wrong about Marco Simoncelli, and according to Lin Jarvis, Spies was put on a satellite team because of the rules - Sportbike
Also quoted here, that he was going to a satellite because of the rules. - Crash
His arrival fell in line with he new rule because both Yamaha factory riders were under contract. Spies was not denied a factory ride because of the so called Spies rule
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This forum has its minuses, but it sure as heck is entartaining.
Fortunately we can block them out
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May 11th, 2018, 04:02 AM   #679
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First of all, I'm asking a question. Notice the "?".

I wrote it in this way to both ask a question and make a point. Which you missed, but I'll explain below.




"I am just going to work around..." means he will 'ignore' these flaming war/trolling interactions. He is making a commitment to ignore it. He is pledging to ignore it. That is the message of Keshav's non-trolling pledge. Theo, if you want to argue that's not what IamPony meant, that's fine, but let's be clear, I was making an inquiry to him so that there can be no doubt, not that his own words were very ambiguous. Which was the point of my "question."

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Yes I know what a question mark is and my reply is answer for a question as I see it and as you point out in your last paragraph. If you had a point, I'm sorry its obviously missed the bus.
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May 11th, 2018, 04:03 AM   #680
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All this Ben Spies talk has got me thinking. Did anyone else see the interview with Ben (I think it was at the start of the current WSBK season, but don't quote me on it) and he was saying that the shoulder finally has enough strength back in it and he was considering riding competitively again? I don't think he was talking GPs though.
I'm not saying he was the best, but he was my favourite rider and the factory season with the broken swing arm etc was a nightmare.
I remember him saying (post retirement) that he got how everyone was so fast, in that he understood how they did it, with the exception of 2 people, Casey and Marc.
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