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April 27th, 2018, 06:30 AM   #1
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VDS: Yamaha or Suzuki?

If you're the team owner, who do you sign with?

Under the current climate of Tech3 severing ties with Yamaha over support, and the looming reality that VR already been granted a grid spot if he wants his team. Combined with the prospect of Suzuki having Lorenzo available to sign, with perhaps a re-energized possibility of really competing by fielding 2 additional bikes to collect data for this push. Keeping in mind that the likelihood of a full factory spec satellite machine is not the Yamaha tradition, but for Suzuki, given their tooling capabilities indicates the satellites would be factory spec. Yamaha has a longer tradition in being a competitive factory, of course, but does this mean the satellite outfit would be competitive too? Suzuki do not have the same tradition, but are they making a real push for a title?

Who would you pick to sign with?

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Suzuki, I would be very worried about losing my bikes from Yamaha in 2 1/2 years if I signed with them. Suzuki seem to be all in now for the GP and the real possibility of factory spec bikes as well as being seen as a feeder team to a factory Suzuki would give ability to sign top prospects.
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Suzuki. There's stability in signing with them. You're going to lose your Yamaha bikes as soon as Rossi wants his team and Suzuki could have a deal with another team by then. I think for an outfit like VDS, the GSX-RR would be a very good platform to work with and would finally allow for their riders to do something more than they do now. Caveat being that they get support from Suzuki and aren't left twisting in the wind the way they do now with HRC.
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Lin Jarvis has already said that Yamaha is willing to supply more than one satellite Team and even field full factory machines if the situation calls for it.

I am sure that was part of the discussions.

Looks like it will be Suzuki though.
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If you're the team owner, who do you sign with?

Under the current climate of Tech3 severing ties with Yamaha over support, and the looming reality that VR already been granted a grid spot if he wants his team. Combined with the prospect of Suzuki having Lorenzo available to sign, with perhaps a re-energized possibility of really competing by fielding 2 additional bikes to collect data for this push. Keeping in mind that the likelihood of a full factory spec satellite machine is not the Yamaha tradition, but for Suzuki, given their tooling capabilities indicates the satellites would be factory spec. Yamaha has a longer tradition in being a competitive factory, of course, but does this mean the satellite outfit would be competitive too? Suzuki do not have the same tradition, but are they making a real push for a title?

Who would you pick to sign with?

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
Not Yamaha. They have never supported Tech 3, who subsisted on Dunlop subsidies for years, well, no Tech 3 rider has ever gone anywhere with the factory team, including a rider of he talent of Ben Spies, and whomever takes the satellite Yamaha gig will be dispensed with as soon as a certain party is ready. The only reason to do it that I can see would be in the hope of making some money in a buyout, and Mr VDS is I gather wealthy anyway and in MotoGP for his own reasons. Suzuki would seem to be moderately serious at the monent, possibly for inscrutable Japanese reasons not obvious to me.
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If Suzuki remains at their current level after losing concessions, then it's Suzuki for me. As the posters before me have already articulated extremely well, Yamaha really do not do well with anything other than the 2 factory riders.
By that I don't mean performance, but the treatment of.
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Not Yamaha. They have never supported Tech 3, who subsisted on Dunlop subsidies for years, well, no Tech 3 rider has ever gone anywhere with the factory team, including a rider of he talent of Ben Spies, and whomever takes the satellite Yamaha gig will be dispensed with as soon as a certain party is ready. The only reason to do it that I can see would be in the hope of making some money in a buyout, and Mr VDS is I gather wealthy anyway and in MotoGP for his own reasons. Suzuki would seem to be moderately serious at the monent, possibly for inscrutable Japanese reasons not obvious to me.
Watch yourself Mick. Before you can count to three, you'll have Knockdown breathing down your neck with accusations of racism.
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Watch yourself Mick. Before you can count to three, you'll have Knockdown breathing down your neck with accusations of racism.
Don't shit up this thread with this kind of crap.
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Watch yourself Mick. Before you can count to three, you'll have Knockdown breathing down your neck with accusations of racism.
I obviously wholeheartedly approve of the Japanese factories wanting to be involved in gp bike racing. I donít think their motives for same are necessarily conventional and commercial, or not wholly anyway, was my only point, and more power to them I say.
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I think it was the boss of Honda who in either the 60's or early 70's after being asked why they would race, he said something like because its there, and I expect thats why the Japanese now dominate the sport.
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