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April 28th, 2018, 02:10 AM   #31
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My favourite moment was Gary McCoy lighting up the back tyre, (I know that that doesn't exactly narrow it down) on the Kwak.
Fair play to Kawasaki though, they put their investment into WSBK and are reaping the benefits.
For me McCoy introducing the 16.5 profile into the paddock on the WCM YZR was one of the most entertaining things I have ever witnessed in this sport - (all too quickly his advantage was nullified by taming and compromising the tyre for the rest of the field). Personally, I much preferred to see the lab rat smoke a two stroke.
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Personally, I much preferred to see the lab rat smoke a two stroke.
Lab rat smoke a two stroke.

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For me McCoy introducing the 16.5 profile into the paddock on the WCM YZR was one of the most entertaining things I have ever witnessed in this sport - (all too quickly his advantage was nullified by taming and compromising the tyre for the rest of the field). Personally, I much preferred to see the lab rat smoke a two stroke.
As I recall Valentino agreed with you.

Three 500 gp wins on a WCM Yamaha was rather outstanding as well.
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As I recall Valentino agreed with you.

Three 500 gp wins on a WCM Yamaha was rather outstanding as well.
He most certainly did having had the privilege of following McCoy and sitting back and enjoying the show. To be fair to Valentino, he was one of the few that could adapt and make the original McCoy spec tyre really work. The others clamoured for the 16.5 it when he started winning races - Abe won on it too. In fairness the half inch debate pre-dated Garry McCoy. I should really have attributed him for "re-intorducing the 16.5". It was frequently Doohan's preferred weapon of choice as I remember and it also suited the gung-ho style of Schwantz although KRjnr for example - himself hardly averse to a "loose rear end" always maintained that the better hook up of 17" out of the corner was the fastest way around a circuit.

McCoy's genius was to deploy it to such devastating effect to enhance his speedway pedigree and his mid corner speed. Many couldn't ride it because the lighter grippier rear pushed the front causing chatter and understeer. I may be wrong, but I'm sure that the extreme triangular profile or something that McCoy preferred was compromised to cater for the rest of the field and the 16.5 profile that Schwantz, Doohan, McCoy, Abe and Rossi all previously mastered was more user friendly by 2001. Gaz will know more than me on this.
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I don't think Kawasaki were ever in it for the long term and their outlay and commitment to the project was questionable not wishing to commit anything remotely near the investment level to be competitive. We tend to recall the sound of the Aprila Cube with affection but the ZX-RR screamer was evil - particularly in 2003.

Favourite moment - OJ's wet weather wild card at Shanghai or Nakano's podium at Motegi. I always thought the project was doomed the moment they signed the ill-fated and hapless Akira Yanagawa alongside Andrew Pitt.Then there was the Hopper debacle.

I always felt that Suzuki's troubles started after winning the title. They invested little in the RGV500 and Junior (massively underrated imo) was on a hiding to nothing in his title defence. The problems with the GSV-R stemmed from failing to develop the chassis around the new tyres in retaining the old gamma frame/tyre spec and the shift from Dunlop to Michelin to Stones didn't help, with the bike always lagging behind - and another formula change in 2007 initially wasn't timely either. As I remember, it hated long turns. No question that the economic downturn was a factor in their departure but it seemed to me at the time it was a timely pretext to step out for a while and take stock. Neither Kawasaki or Suzuki allocated a significant race budget to their efforts in the 2000s - the standing joke in the paddock was if that you could fit the Suzuki race engineers from Japan in one hire car - and if it ever crashed en-route to the circuit it risked wiping our their entire racing R&D department.
Had to rewatch this clip again.
What a fine looking and sounding machine the ZX-RR was!
It was a mini F1 car at full chat.

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Fair play to Kawasaki though, they put their investment into WSBK and are reaping the benefits.
For investment marketing dollar to return, absolutely. I walk in to my local motorcycle dealer and there is always a big cardboard cut out impressively greeting you at the door, and others strategically placed throughout the showroom floor: "KAWASAKI WORLD CHAMPIONS 2017, 2016, 2015...." Jonny Rea on a victory wheelie. How many people walking through those doors do you think know the difference between GP and Wsbk? In America.



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Yes I am sure.

1986 Australian Grand Prix. Team Lotus was getting Honda engines for 1987, and Soichiro Honda was a HUGE fan of Senna.
Yes of that I am certain but so was Kawamoto.
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If I were the team owner I'd sign with Suzuki, which almost happened, but VDS will apparently sign with Yamaha
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If I were the team owner I'd sign with Suzuki, which almost happened, but VDS will apparently sign with Yamaha
But let's be honest, if you had to base your decision on results, the satellite Yam' is doing pretty good. (I would put some wink emoji in here, but unfortunately I am too manly).
Wink.
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But let's be honest, if you had to base your decision on results, the satellite Yam' is doing pretty good. (I would put some wink emoji in here, but unfortunately I am too manly).
Wink.
The issue comes if I am the team owner that I am likely to lose my bikes in 2 years. However I understand trepidation over signing with Suzuki given their history in the premier class.
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