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April 24th, 2018, 08:18 PM   #1
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Dovi rejects Ducatiís initial offer!

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...offer-1029674/

This is going to get interesting!
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April 24th, 2018, 08:56 PM   #2
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I wonder if he has had a better offer from someone else like KTM.... or maybe Ducati is short on cash with other riders they have in their system... either way its bad that this has hit the press.
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I wonder if he has had a better offer from someone else like KTM.... or maybe Ducati is short on cash with other riders they have in their system... either way its bad that this has hit the press.
I think they're definitely short of cash...they're giving it all to Lorenzo while he fucks around at the back..
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HRC definitely isn’t short of cash.
Dovi on an RCV would be pretty fun.
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HRC definitely isnít short of cash.
Dovi on an RCV would be pretty fun.
MM would hand him his backside ........... Dovi has been there and done that, although admittedly it was a less mature Dovi and he was a #3 in the team, but still going back to HRC would be a dangerous move in terms of his career (IMO) as HRC is a Marquez focused organisation.

Yamaha, well he has done tech 3 so he may head back but I do not see him getting a primary factor ride in 2019 (VR/MV) and who gets the 'old' tech 3 bikes is still in the air.

Suzuki is a possibility as Dovi has shown he can both assist development and adapt but is the Suzuki competitive enough for a guy who has now seriously gotten a taste of a world championship? Personally I think not so for mine, he is not headed that way.

KTM have dollars but are still an unknown.

Nope, I see this as a power play by Dovi to highlight that Ducati need him perhaps more than he needs Ducati (JL not producing, Petrucci out and JM not there yet) and so they need to pony up in the dollar market, simple.

Personally I suspect that JL will move on, thus freeing dollars for Dovi and then leaving factory seat 2 available at a less cost (JM as example would be a cheap option by comparison).

Ducati suits Dovi so his leaving will not guarantee any success as Ducati is more his bike than any other
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Hopefully he stays at Ducati, we can't be having another decade of waiting for somebody to string some wins together on it.
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MM would hand him his backside ........... Dovi has been there and done that, although admittedly it was a less mature Dovi and he was a #3 in the team, but still going back to HRC would be a dangerous move in terms of his career (IMO) as HRC is a Marquez focused organisation.

Yamaha, well he has done tech 3 so he may head back but I do not see him getting a primary factor ride in 2019 (VR/MV) and who gets the 'old' tech 3 bikes is still in the air.

Suzuki is a possibility as Dovi has shown he can both assist development and adapt but is the Suzuki competitive enough for a guy who has now seriously gotten a taste of a world championship? Personally I think not so for mine, he is not headed that way.

KTM have dollars but are still an unknown.

Nope, I see this as a power play by Dovi to highlight that Ducati need him perhaps more than he needs Ducati (JL not producing, Petrucci out and JM not there yet) and so they need to pony up in the dollar market, simple.

Personally I suspect that JL will move on, thus freeing dollars for Dovi and then leaving factory seat 2 available at a less cost (JM as example would be a cheap option by comparison).

Ducati suits Dovi so his leaving will not guarantee any success as Ducati is more his bike than any other
I agree, I don't think Dovi is going to let himself be undervalued again, and HRC as you say despite a contract actually pretty much put him aside although they still paid his salary back in 2011. In the commercial world being humble and diligent doesn't cut it, people tend to be valued at what they are being paid.
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They just need to switch salaries between Dovi and Lorenzo.
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They just need to switch salaries between Dovi and Lorenzo.
Of course they should. He very much deserves to be paid as their lead rider unless they get MM which is not happening.

Jorge got paid a premium as a proven race and title winner when he was signed though, which I am sure was not with the anticipation he would fail, and I am not sure Dovi could reasonably quite expect Jorge's current salary, not that Jorge himself should have any expectations of a premium salary wherever he goes of course.
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MM would hand him his backside ........... Dovi has been there and done that, although admittedly it was a less mature Dovi and he was a #3 in the team, but still going back to HRC would be a dangerous move in terms of his career (IMO) as HRC is a Marquez focused organisation.

Yamaha, well he has done tech 3 so he may head back but I do not see him getting a primary factor ride in 2019 (VR/MV) and who gets the 'old' tech 3 bikes is still in the air.

Suzuki is a possibility as Dovi has shown he can both assist development and adapt but is the Suzuki competitive enough for a guy who has now seriously gotten a taste of a world championship? Personally I think not so for mine, he is not headed that way.

KTM have dollars but are still an unknown.

Nope, I see this as a power play by Dovi to highlight that Ducati need him perhaps more than he needs Ducati (JL not producing, Petrucci out and JM not there yet) and so they need to pony up in the dollar market, simple.

Personally I suspect that JL will move on, thus freeing dollars for Dovi and then leaving factory seat 2 available at a less cost (JM as example would be a cheap option by comparison).

Ducati suits Dovi so his leaving will not guarantee any success as Ducati is more his bike than any other
Fair points and good for him to make a power play. He has outperformed J.Lo in every possible way, so thereís no reason why he should settle for peanuts.
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