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April 26th, 2018, 06:14 AM   #281
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He did win the 2009 title.
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Actually I didn't, I went bald about 25 years ago, but I thought it sounded good.

Move along, there's nothing to see here, move along......
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He did win the 2009 title.
Sure but he had Lorenzo who was still adapting to the tire and Stoner who was in ill-health. Go to 2010 when everyone had a full year under their belt, he never won another title again. I do agree with you that he should have retired after 2009 as it would have kept his image/legacy far more intact than what has ultimately happened now. Even though his group of fans will always worship him no matter what, he's done himself no favors in the categories that actually matter. Instead he picks battles with a rival that only becomes further motivated by what he does, and just happens to be the fastest motorcyclist on the planet. Hardly helping himself.
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He did win the 2009 title.
And I would argue that was his best title given the conditions. However he had an advantage over most of field already knowing what the vastly different(if riders are to be believes) Bridgestones rode like and it was by far his least dominant win.
Head to head with the other 4 aliens he only eclipses Pedrosa marginally because of a championship win that's alluded Pedrosa.
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And I would argue that was his best title given the conditions. However he had an advantage over most of field already knowing what the vastly different(if riders are to be believes) Bridgestones rode like and it was by far his least dominant win.
Head to head with the other 4 aliens he only eclipses Pedrosa marginally because of a championship win that's alluded Pedrosa.
2004 and 2008 imo.
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Well aren’t we all lucky to have an authentic couch journalist like JP Shitface point out the hacks to us!
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Lol look at this bitch go.

A standing open invitation exists. Take it and join your buttbuddy curryfart for a little facial rearrangement or fuck off.
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Because Mitchell, you are a moron who are talking about 100s of millions of people. To me, who was pointing out that the 12 odd mouthbreathers on this forum think as a collective. It’s not the same thing and if you had half a brain, you would remember that I admire a lot of Rossi’s rivals.

Now run along, it must be library day at the prison or something right?
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Interesting that the same tiny coterie of flame-warriors go on at length about how I bring negativity to the forum, and yet, not a word from them about this guy.
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Interesting that the same tiny coterie of flame-warriors go on at length about how I bring negativity to the forum, and yet, not a word from them about this guy.
There's an ignore button.

Why continually engage with a troll?

It ruins the thread so completely by wasting time responding to someone who is looking to get a rise out of you, or anyone else.
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Here's a bit from Jerez 2011 that Hackropotkin wrote...

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Speaking of unwise maneuvers brings us naturally to the subject of Valentino Rossi's pass on Casey Stoner. At the core of the incident lies a misunderstanding, it appears. Rossi claims that he had not intended to pass Stoner on the brakes going into Turn 1, but that he found himself going too deep and too fast, and ended up on the inside of the Australian. The Australian, in turn, says he heard Rossi behind him, and left him plenty of room to make the pass on the inside. Rossi dived into the gap having braked too late, but having been offered the inside, he no longer had an escape route. Unable to make the corner, Rossi folded the front, wiping out Stoner in the process.

Speaking of the crash itself, both men were perfectly clear: Rossi said it was a mistake, and Stoner said it was a racing incident of the type that is inherent to motorcycle racing. Though Stoner gave Rossi a sarcastic slow hand clap as he passed the place where the Australian had been left stranded, Stoner understood that the pass was just one of those things. It may not have been Rossi's smartest ever move, but Stoner certainly doesn't think it was either deliberate or aimed particularly at him.
Contrast it with what Kropo wrote about Argentina...

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Were Rossi's complaints justified? There is no doubt that Márquez rode recklessly in Argentina, and absolutely no doubt that he caused Rossi to run off the track. But to accuse Márquez of doing it deliberately goes far too far. There is no doubt that Márquez is prepared to take more risks than other riders: the fact that he fell off 27 times during 18 race weekends in 2017 is ample proof of that. What Márquez doesn't appear to realize is that the risks he is taking can also impact the other riders on track with him.
He takes MM to task for Argentina but calls Rossi's torpedo of Stoner a "misunderstanding". Two sets of standards in play. Sure he acknowledges MM didn't intentionally do it, but never acknowledges MM's front tucked on the wet surface, and that it was an unfortunate racing incident. Why? Because it doesn't serve his agenda to his overlords that hold the vaunted pass credentials. His rebuke of Rossi for Jerez 2011 is non-existent with a few throwaway lines about it not being his smartest moment even though it was a move that had zero chance of sticking. Meanwhile Rossi only had to stand his bike up but refused to do so and ensured contact happened. Also if he couldn't hear MM's RCV he has to be one deaf and dumb moron. He should have been prepared for MM instead of running wide to leave the door open.
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Here's a bit from Jerez 2011 that Hackropotkin wrote...



Contrast it with what Kropo wrote about Argentina...



He takes MM to task for Argentina but calls Rossi's torpedo of Stoner a "misunderstanding". Two sets of standards in play. Sure he acknowledges MM didn't intentionally do it, but never acknowledges MM's front tucked on the wet surface, and that it was an unfortunate racing incident. Why? Because it doesn't serve his agenda to his overlords that hold the vaunted pass credentials. His rebuke of Rossi for Jerez 2011 is non-existent with a few throwaway lines about it not being his smartest moment even though it was a move that had zero chance of sticking. Meanwhile Rossi only had to stand his bike up but refused to do so and ensured contact happened. Also if he couldn't hear MM's RCV he has to be one deaf and dumb moron. He should have been prepared for MM instead of running wide to leave the door open.
The other contrast is between Casey Stoner, that famous whiner, and Mr “this is racing”.
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The other contrast is between Casey Stoner, that famous whiner, and Mr “this is racing”.
The silver lining of it all is that Mr This is Racing never won another race again at Laguna Seca. Sort of fitting seeing as he nearly torpedoed Stoner in his desperate attempt to get past on the corkscrew with another out of control maneuver.
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Here's a bit from Jerez 2011 that Hackropotkin wrote...



Contrast it with what Kropo wrote about Argentina...



He takes MM to task for Argentina but calls Rossi's torpedo of Stoner a "misunderstanding". Two sets of standards in play. Sure he acknowledges MM didn't intentionally do it, but never acknowledges MM's front tucked on the wet surface, and that it was an unfortunate racing incident. Why? Because it doesn't serve his agenda to his overlords that hold the vaunted pass credentials. His rebuke of Rossi for Jerez 2011 is non-existent with a few throwaway lines about it not being his smartest moment even though it was a move that had zero chance of sticking. Meanwhile Rossi only had to stand his bike up but refused to do so and ensured contact happened. Also if he couldn't hear MM's RCV he has to be one deaf and dumb moron. He should have been prepared for MM instead of running wide to leave the door open.
Have you not seen the little yellow things they remove from their ears at the end of the race?
Earplugs are designed to stop deafness by blocking LOUD SOUNDS!
You cannot say how much noise Marquez's bike was making as he was braking for the corner, therefore not on the throttle.
Rossi may or may not have heard him, you can't say for definite either way.
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