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April 18th, 2018, 06:11 AM | #81 |
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Fremantle, Australia Posts: 1,592 Likes: 600 | If Lorenzo didn't pick his bike up they both would've crashed. There is so many similarities in this incident but because Rossi's role was reversed you refuse to see it.
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April 18th, 2018, 06:20 AM | #82 | |||||
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For what it's worth, I am not defending Marquez' actions in Argentina. If I had been Rossi I'd have felt aggrieved too, but Rossi wasn't completely blameless in the same way Marquez wasn't completely blameless in Sepang 2015. Quote:
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April 18th, 2018, 06:21 AM | #83 |
Senior Member Joined: Oct 2015 From: Texas Posts: 1,731 Likes: 738 | When any block pass is performed, the overtaking rider gets the line by being first to the apex. It's then the other rider's responsibility to yield the line. Marquez did not beat Rossi to the apex, he arrived at the same time (if not slightly late).
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April 18th, 2018, 06:46 AM | #84 |
Senior Member Joined: Aug 2015 From: Fremantle, Australia Posts: 1,592 Likes: 600 | How can he have arrived at the same time when his bike was exactly where Rossi wanted to put his? By definition he must've been there first if Rossi had to run into him to hit the apex.
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April 18th, 2018, 06:55 AM | #85 |
Senior Member Joined: Oct 2015 From: Texas Posts: 1,731 Likes: 738 | Marc took the inside line which was a shorter distance to the apex, yet he never got in front of Rossi prior to the apex. That means Rossi still had line preference. Had Marc arrived sooner, he would have successfully passed initially, but since he was on a line that would've resulted in a slow exit, Rossi very likely would've immediately repassed him. It was just another poor decision by Marquez during weekend that saw many poor decisions by him.
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April 18th, 2018, 07:13 AM | #86 | |
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April 18th, 2018, 07:20 AM | #87 |
Senior Member Joined: Nov 2015 From: A caravan on an island Posts: 1,783 Likes: 576 I Ride: Shanks pony. | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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April 18th, 2018, 07:34 AM | #88 | |
Senior Member Joined: May 2007 From: sydney australia Posts: 10,623 Likes: 2132 | Quote:
I think any fault lies with MM in this incident who could have waited till they were through the corner given he was so much faster anyway but this was well down on the list of egregiously reckless passes, including several by Rossi and both Jerez last corner passes by the two riders involved; neither was staying on the track without using Gibernau and Lorenzo respectively as berms. In this one both were on respectable lines to make the corner on a clear track but arrived at the same point nearly simultaneously. Hard for me to judge without seeing the incident live given the views of so many since, but it looked to me that Rossi marginally had priority. I see nothing Machiavellian from Rossi or particularly reckless from MM; my late to the party impression is that neither expected the other to be there when the contact was made. | |
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April 18th, 2018, 07:44 AM | #89 | |
Senior Member Joined: Apr 2015 From: Madison Square Garden 1973 Posts: 5,342 Likes: 2575 | Quote:
No way around it. There was enough of a gap for a bike to come through, but Rossi's situational awareness wasn't good enough to pick up on another bike coming through. We saw riders going into those types of gaps at Phillip Island 2015 numerous times to think off the top of my head. | |
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April 18th, 2018, 07:59 AM | #90 | |
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