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April 18th, 2018, 04:09 AM   #71
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There's an interview of Kevin Schwantz who was defending Rossi's manure (pun intended) of Sepang 15. He said what Rossi did wasn't really a big deal, in fact, he suggests, it's 'just something riders do to send the message we don't like how the other guy is riding' (I'm paraphrasing, perhaps someone can find exact quote). Schwantz said he's "annoyed" at how people don't understand what Rossi did, implying we're all ignorant of some racers racing parlance. Frankly I never heard of such a ridiculous thing, I guess that makes me ignorant. It's fascinating Schwantz defended Rossi's actions at Sepang, and gave Rossi wide berth to entertain the Great Uccio conspiracy theory of Philip Island.


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That makes 2 of us. However I wouldn't take much notice of Schwantz opinion these days given he said that Rossi would retire at the end of last yr if Vinales handed him his arse.

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/new...exit--schwantz

In direct conflict with his sentiments on the Sepang 2015 incident, he said of the Argentina incident "You can't knock someone down"




https://www.gpone.com/en/2018/04/13/...eone-down.html
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It's fascinating Schwantz defended Rossi's actions at Sepang, and gave Rossi wide berth to entertain the Great Uccio conspiracy theory of Philip Island.
Fascinating, yes, almost as if Kevin has his head up Rossi's ass.
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That makes 2 of us. However I wouldn't take much notice of Schwantz opinion these days given he said that Rossi would retire at the end of last yr if Vinales handed him his arse.

https://www.autosport.com/motogp/new...exit--schwantz

In direct conflict with his sentiments on the Sepang 2015 incident, he said of the Argentina incident "You can't knock someone down"
Wrong, Rossi never knocked Marquez down at Sepang. Rossi broke the rules by slowing down and blocking Marquez, but it was Marquez that made contact with Rossi's bike.
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Wrong, Rossi never knocked Marquez down at Sepang. Rossi broke the rules by slowing down and blocking Marquez, but it was Marquez that made contact with Rossi's bike.
By turning into him? In that case, if that's you're argument then Rossi was the one who turned into Marquez when he tried to shut the door.
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Wrong, Rossi never knocked Marquez down at Sepang. Rossi broke the rules by slowing down and blocking Marquez, but it was Marquez that made contact with Rossi's bike.
But have you ever seen a more egregious act in the top class?
I was rooting for Vale up until that point, but it was just too much for me I'm afraid.
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By turning into him? In that case, if that's you're argument then Rossi was the one who turned into Marquez when he tried to shut the door.
That's untrue. Rossi stayed on his line and Marquez ran into him as Rossi attempted to apex the corner.
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But have you ever seen a more egregious act in the top class?
I was rooting for Vale up until that point, but it was just too much for me I'm afraid.
Most if not all on-track clashes between riders prior to that incident were far more dangerous. IMO, what makes it hard for some to accept it that Rossi clearly slowed down and blocked Marquez (there is no denying it). Had Rossi done the same thing at full race pace (like it has always been done) people would be able to claim it was simply hard racing.
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Most if not all on-track clashes between riders prior to that incident were far more dangerous. IMO, what makes it hard for some to accept it that Rossi clearly slowed down and blocked Marquez (there is no denying it). Had Rossi done the same thing at full race pace (like it has always been done) people would be able to claim it was simply hard racing.
You're absolutely right, most on track contact is far more dangerous.
It was the deliberate nature of the act that, for me, made it unforgivable.
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That's untrue. Rossi stayed on his line and Marquez ran into him as Rossi attempted to apex the corner.
Rossi tried to have a late apex, the problem was that another bike was already there and level if not in front of him. Much like Misano 2016.
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Rossi tried to have a late apex, the problem was that another bike was already there and level if not in front of him. Much like Misano 2016.
Safe passing involves getting in front of the rider you're overtaking BEFORE the apex of the corner. Attempting to overtake another rider at the apex is almost always going to lead to incidents.

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