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April 16th, 2018, 01:59 AM   #21
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Genuine question, Synn and I am not trying to illicit a reaction, but what do you think Yamaha should do?
Clearly the bike was working a treat for Mav' early last year and the same 'early setup' works for Zarco so why not return to that as a base for the factory boys?
No point asking him,he's gone somewhere else where they worship Rossi and he can fantasise about being Uccio..
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Genuine question, Synn and I am not trying to illicit a reaction, but what do you think Yamaha should do?
Clearly the bike was working a treat for Mav' early last year and the same 'early setup' works for Zarco so why not return to that as a base for the factory boys?
Sounds simple enough but it's not.

Early session last year they were on a different construction of the tyres and using the 2017 frame.

This year, we have the newer construction tyres and everyone is on the 2016 based chassis (which is actually the 2015 chassis as far as I'm aware as the 2016 chassis had the fuel tank under the seat and never got raced).

I'm not sure Yamaha actually have an issue yet. We've only had two races and they were both outliers for various reasons.

Rossi has seemed happy with the bike most since the last preseason test (the front end feels right and is giving plenty of feedback), they seem to have more mechanical grip and it's just the tyre life that looks to be in question (which looks to be electronics).

Mav has also found a set-up he likes (basically everything stiffer).

I guess the last thing is if they can be competitive with the Hondas at the low grip circuits...

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Thanks, Macca
So ultimately it's a tyre compatibility issue (within certain surface strictures) more than anything.
I suppose it makes it difficult for Michelin, they don't want to be seen making a tyre that favours one manufacturer.
You're right though, whilst Mav' hasn't been as strong as last year, Vale's performance in Qatar was on point.
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Genuine question, Synn and I am not trying to illicit a reaction, but what do you think Yamaha should do?
Clearly the bike was working a treat for Mav' early last year and the same 'early setup' works for Zarco so why not return to that as a base for the factory boys?
Because the factory boys are crap. Hence they need to get rid of them. Then get Lorenzo back and get Zarco. Though I suspect Zarco can see how the wind blows and is going HRC.
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To a first grade level spelling class?
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But I'm going to use your post to interject a dig if you don't mind. And here it goes: if Rossi really did need the M1 to be fixed...he could easily find someone to do it in 80 secs.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
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Because the factory boys are crap. Hence they need to get rid of them. Then get Lorenzo back and get Zarco. Though I suspect Zarco can see how the wind blows and is going HRC.
If Rossi is going to have his own team and they are Yamaha's I cxan't see Lorenzo ever going back there, as Rossi will stick his oar in again.

On another note its a shame that the rider who died in 2011, wasn't Rossi. Maybe then we wouldn't have the antics we see now.
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I'm not sure Yamaha actually have an issue yet. We've only had two races and they were both outliers for various reasons.
Yes. Yamaha carried Rossi to the podium in 2nd place last year in Texas. Vinalez crashed out in Austin (much to the Yellow Cult's delight) but Yamaha carried Mav who scored a win and a 2nd when they returned to Europe. I expect the M1 will be fine, and now that Pedrosa is out, I expect Yamaha factory to capitalize on it, especially given Pedrosa was on the podium las year in the US round, and two podiums (scoring a win) when he returned to Europe. So gift Yamaha at least one extra position in these next few rounds thanks to Pedrosa's injury.
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What I'd like to quantify is, how detrimental an effect does Uccio's obviously abundant body odour have on the team's morale? How many points does his endlessly wafting aroma cost the manufacturer each season? Does his sweaty, stagnant stench in such close vicinity to the finely fettled machines cost them horsepower?
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On another note its a shame that the rider who died in 2011, wasn't Rossi. Maybe then we wouldn't have the antics we see now.


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