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April 14th, 2018, 08:10 AM   #71
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Here is a link to all of what Kevin had to say. These riders all have a fire burning within to do one thing and that is to win. I think in many cases that MM's fire burns with such intensity that it leads him to make moves that are too aggressive at times and if not tempered will some day result in catastrophic consequences.

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April 14th, 2018, 08:12 AM   #72
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Here is a link to all of what Kevin had to say. These riders all have a fire burning within to do one thing and that is to win. I think in many cases that MM's fire burns with such intensity that it leads him to make moves that are too aggressive at times and if not tempered will some day result in catastrophic consequences.
I hear you dude, and to a non racer it all makes a certain sense.

But Ago thinks Rossi should go get a job at a bank.
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April 14th, 2018, 08:23 AM   #73
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Lmao..Ago is entitled to be wrong! This season is really off to a crazy start. Just hope it ends with all riders being in one piece!
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April 14th, 2018, 08:26 AM   #74
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Here is a link to all of what Kevin had to say. These riders all have a fire burning within to do one thing and that is to win. I think in many cases that MM's fire burns with such intensity that it leads him to make moves that are too aggressive at times and if not tempered will some day result in catastrophic consequences.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...kevin+schwantz
He should have got at least a several race suspension for the Willairot incident when he was a Moto 2 rider, which pretty much ended Willairot’s career, nearly ended his, and could have had even more serious consequences. He was 17 or 18 at the time, and imo his supposedly adult crew who sent him out on that lap should have been banned from gp bike racing altogether.

This latest thing is nonsense though, a racing incident where he is in the wrong if blame is to be apportioned, but hardly different from what Rossi has done scores if not hundreds of times over his career, except Rossi has a free pass to make such moves and everyone knows it, hence other riders standing their bikes up to avoid collisions. At worst MM thought he had the same liberty, and as is usually the case you guys accept the Rossi narrative unquestioningly. Go and watch Laguna Seca 2008 if you want to see a half race long pattern of aggressive riding, including 2 instances which would have resulted in more serious crashes than this one if Stoner had not elected to avoid colliding with Rossi; in the first case he would have been torpedoed at 90 degrees, on the racing line in control of his bike, by Rossi who couldn’t even stay on the track.

The same Kevin Schwantz argued that MM could and should have avoided the collision which took him out of the Sepang 2015 race btw, and iirc correctly may even have complimented Rossi on the corkscrew thing, so logically consistent he is not.
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Yes, anyone who disagrees with your obviously always correct interpretation of events must be trolling. And you wonder why you are counted as a member of a quasi-religious cult.

The problem is not any interpretation of this particular incident, but that Rossi, you and other Rossi fans including Schwantz have argued the diametric opposite when the circumstances were reversed, including on one occasion when Rossi admitted to having deliberately ridden illegally.
Did this fuckhead just call Kevin Fucking Schwantz a Rossi fanboy?

Aha hahahaha. I have seen everything on this forum.
You should do a Kurt Cobain right about now because you’ll never Top this.
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April 14th, 2018, 10:34 AM   #76
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Argumentum ad hominem - the most popular refuge of a lazy or deficient intellect.
Rajesh is extra cunty today. Must be the chicken vindaloo burning a hole in his rear end.
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Why did Marc go to Rossi's box after the race? Everybody seems to think he felt guilty. Did it ever cross your mind he went there because he was sorry for him? Because he was an innocent participant in a Rossi-induced accident?
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April 14th, 2018, 02:09 PM   #78
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Rajesh is extra cunty today. Must be the chicken vindaloo burning a hole in his rear end.
More weak tea. Honestly - I don't know why you bother.
We've seen your act a million times before. Like other
clones - you think yourself unique. Talk about lack of
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April 14th, 2018, 02:47 PM   #79
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I can see Gaz’s point that vr was on his “normal” wide line. However, Rossi wasn’t going fast enough and should have stood the bike up when he realized he’d been snookered. He had to have seen Marc’s bike, since it was actually in front of him.
Slow or is it the sheer speed differential making it look slow (remembering tyre)?

My whole point is that I do not think he knew that MM had 'snookered' him until the queue made contact with the ball so to speak - he simply had no idea that the gap was closing at the pace it was and thus, at that time was riding his own race un-weighted by others



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Can't do if the hate is clouding your thinking. Yes, Rossi could have prevented this. But he chose not to.

The consequences are interesting, though. What did Marc lose? Some points. He is still the favorite for 2018 title. What did Rossi lose? Everything. His chances for 10th title are practically zero now.
Not as easy to see as one can imagine or dare I say, expect.

Over recent years we have seen a number of similar type of issues where a rider has placed a bike in that location and often we see contact as the forward rider either cannot see or sees to late and thus, even with lightning reflexes is fractionally slow and contact occurs.

IMO only, and I say this as a non-Rossi acolyte but this was not his to avoid although I happily cede that the mist on both may well have played a part
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April 14th, 2018, 02:54 PM   #80
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Did this fuckhead just call Kevin Fucking Schwantz a Rossi fanboy?

Aha hahahaha. I have seen everything on this forum.
You should do a Kurt Cobain right about now because you’ll never Top this.
Your attitude to Marc fucking Marquez, Jorge fucking Lorenzo, Casey fucking Stoner, etc, etc being an entirely different thing of course.

(EDIT Speaking of your contention that I/we choose to take notice only of retired riders with a viewpoint sympathetic to mine/ours, which like much of your witless prattle applies in spades to you yourself, I raise your Kevin fucking Schwantz and give you Giacomo fucking Agostini. I called Schwantz a fan btw, not a fanboy, but if the cap fits in regard to you being a fanboy yourself feel free to wear it; perhaps you are finally making progress with the insight thing.)

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