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April 13th, 2018, 04:41 PM   #71
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My mate Jim Beam and I had a late night...
I hope you didnt commit the cardinal NZ sin and spend the night with Jim and not Portia!
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April 13th, 2018, 04:48 PM   #72
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I hope you didnt commit the cardinal NZ sin and spend the night with Jim and not Portia!
Ah,you must be talking about rugby?,i don't follow it which is a sin down here, but that's ok because i'm English which is sin wherever you go it seems..
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April 20th, 2018, 10:23 PM   #73
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The number of wheels makes no difference to "circuit racing", the rules, the concept, the money involved, the equipment, the level of injuries, the contact, what one can and can't get away with, etc. etc.....
You are delusional, like most who have never been on a motorcycle on a race track.

A. The level of injuries are not the same. You can die from a slow speed motorcycle crash and destroy the bike. The same accident in a car would be a yawn and a drive away.

B. Have you ever wondered why motorcycle road races are so short? Well, partly because the damn effort to go fast on a bike is much higher than what it is in ANY car. People just wear out, mentally and physically and it's too dangerous to carry on for too long.

C. Contact in most auto racing (some open wheel exceptions) is not nearly as critical as in motorcycle racing. Dani Pedrosa just broke his wrist in a minor incident with Zarco. Nothing would have happened to four wheel drivers.

Sorry pal, but until you zip around on a track on a modern liter bike, I don't think you should make comparisons except for rules and perhaps race strategy.

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April 21st, 2018, 01:57 AM   #74
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Sorry pal, but until you zip around on a track on a modern liter bike,
That is a valid point and is why I don't try and interject my own views on racing from a personal experience perspective, because all of my wilder antics were a while ago and, to be perfectly candid, I am just not brave, fast or young enough to be on a modern liter bike.

An S1000RR out of the crate would be head and shoulders faster than WSBK winning machines from not that long ago.
I hate to admit it, because I never thought this day would come, but I have hit my yardstick of old age by actually considering a custom bike. Primarily because old injuries (from crashes, the army and MMA) plague me with pain on a daily basis, but also because at least then I would have a valid excuse for being slow, I can just blame it on the bike.


Edited to add that this is just my personal situation and why I don't comment on certain things. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to comment unless they have the skills of Jonny Rea or better. Folks can comment on whatever they want, it's none of my business, it is the internet after all.

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April 21st, 2018, 02:05 AM   #75
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To me the total and utter bigotry that flows from Rossi and his minions is both unbelievable and ironic.
When Marc first joined the Repsol MotoGP team in 2013, he was absolutely adored by the minions (including several of my friends) because he was upsetting Lorenzo, both with his robust style and also the fact he took Lorenzo out on his own corner. This was celebrated no end and Marc could do no wrong in the minions eyes, even Rossi himself (at that time a non contender) was often seen laughing and joking, obviously enjoying Lorenzoís displeasure.
Fast forward two years and Marc is the devil, in 2016 Mugello saw burning effigies and abuse, the minions now hate Marc (even some of my mates flat out deny ever praising Marc, they always saw him as a dirty rider ), this spat was continued by Rossi up until LS unfortunate passing, where Rossi decided to grant Marc the hand of friendship, very loosely so and clearly an act borne of the sad situation and certainly not a compulsive genuine one.
Now the precious 10th is getting more and more unlikely, Marc makes a mistake (several actually) and Rossi is like a snake, striking straight for Marcís heart. Marc is absolutely the biggest threat to Rossi and definitely not one to be bullied off line by Rossi, so why not stunt his riding by kicking up a fuss and setting Dorna, R.D and the minions on him?
Thatís exactly what Rossi is up to, but it wonít work, Rossi thinks heís the man who absolutely commands respect, Marc is old school and gives respect to those who earn it, he wonít succumb to Rossiís tricks, itíll just spur him on to beat Rossi even harder.
Rossi had the opportunity to shake Marcís hand and be the bigger man in Argentina, that mightíve made Marc think to go easier around Rossi. Instead the hypocritical insults and accusations will just rile Marc up, heís probably already discussed one phrase with his team and friends... ďthis is racing!Ē
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April 21st, 2018, 11:30 AM   #76
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That is a valid point and is why I don't try and interject my own views on racing from a personal experience perspective, because all of my wilder antics were a while ago and, to be perfectly candid, I am just not brave, fast or young enough to be on a modern liter bike.

An S1000RR out of the crate would be head and shoulders faster than WSBK winning machines from not that long ago.
I hate to admit it, because I never thought this day would come, but I have hit my yardstick of old age by actually considering a custom bike. Primarily because old injuries (from crashes, the army and MMA) plague me with pain on a daily basis, but also because at least then I would have a valid excuse for being slow, I can just blame it on the bike.


Edited to add that this is just my personal situation and why I don't comment on certain things. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to comment unless they have the skills of Jonny Rea or better. Folks can comment on whatever they want, it's none of my business, it is the internet after all.
I really wrote what I did specifically for a car guy. I don't think you have to be a racer to enjoy racing. To demand the same skills as the MotoGP or other racers would be analogous to having to sing like Caruso to appreciate opera, or play drums like Keith Moon to appreciate rock and roll.

However, unless you have ridden a motorcycle at speed, you don't understand how different it is from driving a car at speed. And it is very different. I have had stupid arguments with car guys before concerning this issue. Just for the exercise, I prefer riding rather than driving on a track.

I have had a bunch of health issues the last couple of years. I wouldn't let your physical problems dissuade you from expressing your opinion. I bought a S1000RR to be my new track machine. It hasn't seen the track because of my health. I know two guys still riding in A group and they are in their seventies. I hope that is inspirational enough to soldier on.
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I really wrote what I did specifically for a car guy. I don't think you have to be a racer to enjoy racing. To demand the same skills as the MotoGP or other racers would be analogous to having to sing like Caruso to appreciate opera, or play drums like Keith Moon to appreciate rock and roll.

However, unless you have ridden a motorcycle at speed, you don't understand how different it is from driving a car at speed. And it is very different. I have had stupid arguments with car guys before concerning this issue. Just for the exercise, I prefer riding rather than driving on a track.

I have had a bunch of health issues the last couple of years. I wouldn't let your physical problems dissuade you from expressing your opinion. I bought a S1000RR to be my new track machine. It hasn't seen the track because of my health. I know two guys still riding in A group and they are in their seventies. I hope that is inspirational enough to soldier on.
I went with a buddy who was entered in several flat-track races upstate from me last summer. I was bitching about being too old to race anymore and he dragged me over to see a guy getting ready to exit onto the track. The guy was in his early 70s and he had a helper holding up a friggin' oxygen tank and he was holding it the breather to his mouth right up until they released everybody to go out on the grid. He didn't do too bad either.
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