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April 4th, 2018, 06:26 AM   #1
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Predictions: Where will Zarco go next?

Zarco Mania is upon us. Rumours are flying. Zarco is said to be talking to HRC, and really, just about everyone other than KTM.

If HRC sends Dani packing, would Marquez okay it? Would he have veto power? Would HRC really want a rider that competitive? Wouldn't Zarco be more useful than Pedrosa for developing the bike?

If Lorenzo bails for Suzuki would Zarco move to Ducati for a bigger paycheck?
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April 4th, 2018, 06:51 AM   #2
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At the moment I think it's too up in the air, like you said he seems to be interested in everybody except KTM (ironically).

I think Suzuki is a no. They reneged on a pre-contract with him and they aren't competitive enough for him to overlook that. HRC are in a difficult position; if pedders continues helping Honda get the manufacturers trophy while Marquez racks up championships, they don't need to change him. However there is probably going to be a point sooner rather than later where Pedrosa's performances start to drop off a cliff (be it he loses motivation, internal squabbling or just outright loses pace) and by then, Honda may have missed the boat for a decent replacement. I don't think Marquez has the power to veto a team mate, but would Honda risk upsetting the harmony with a rider who has won them the title every year bar one since he joined?

If Lorenzo sucks on the Ducati, I'd like to see him go to Suzuki but I doubt that will happen. Ducati have said they want to keep him, and even with his current performance he is probably too expensive for zook.
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At the moment I think it's too up in the air, like you said he seems to be interested in everybody except KTM (ironically).

I think Suzuki is a no. They reneged on a pre-contract with him and they aren't competitive enough for him to overlook that. HRC are in a difficult position; if pedders continues helping Honda get the manufacturers trophy while Marquez racks up championships, they don't need to change him. However there is probably going to be a point sooner rather than later where Pedrosa's performances start to drop off a cliff (be it he loses motivation, internal squabbling or just outright loses pace) and by then, Honda may have missed the boat for a decent replacement. I don't think Marquez has the power to veto a team mate, but would Honda risk upsetting the harmony with a rider who has won them the title every year bar one since he joined?

If Lorenzo sucks on the Ducati, I'd like to see him go to Suzuki but I doubt that will happen. Ducati have said they want to keep him, and even with his current performance he is probably too expensive for zook.
Even if Ducati keeps Lorenzo on in ‘19 Zarco could still get a seat. If I’m not mistaken Ducati is running three full factory bikes. If Lorenzo fails to adapt this year - Ducati would show him the door. Look at how they turned on Melandri and Stoner.

If Zarco wanted the HRC seat he could afford to make a low ball offer for the first year contingent on a much higher salary or a big bonus in the following year based on results. He’s young with good years ahead of him. I reckon Ducati must be wondering how long Dovi can maintain his current winning streak. That’s got to be a deciding factor.

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I have a hard time thinking Honda would want to carve up points between 2 riders, so as much as I don’t care for Cal he would move up and maybe Zarco takes his place at LCR if he ends up on a Honda. I don’t think Marc is afraid of the challenge, but why would Honda chance losing a wrc? I suspect Zarco will land at Suzuki before Ducati. Depending on how things shake down at Ducati with Lorenzo’s performance this year. Don’t foresee Lorenzo leaving unless he can’t make it into the top 10 consistently. Pay cut or not. If he does go, he goes to Suzuki, petrux takes his spot. No Zarco. I think KTM is still his most likely and most logical landing spot. I’m sure he will have the #1 rider status and they will have a top 5 bike by 2020. I just think they need someone that can ride it.

I don’t think we’re going to know anything for a few races. After one 1–off type track it tough to gauge who is going where. We need a few European rounds before we can see actual competitiveness.

I would like to see Lorenzo to zuke, petrux to aprillia, Dani to ktm/Zarco to ktm, cal to Repsol, Morbidelli to LCR Lowes staying where he is, jackass moving up to the factory bike, and ianonne sweeping a warehouse.
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Even if Ducati keeps Lorenzo on in Ď19 Zarco could still get a seat. If Iím not mistaken Ducati is running three full factory bikes. If Lorenzo fails to adapt this year - Ducati would show him the door. Look at how they turned on Melandri and Stoner.
True, but they have Miller (who admittedly is out of contract at the end of the yr) and already signed Bagnaia. So they have to boot Miller if they want Zarco.

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and ianonne sweeping a warehouse.
I think he's headed to WSBK after this yr tbh. I can't see who else would want him.
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Everyone assumes Zarco would do well on the RC213V, but it's not a ride-on-rails bike like the M1. Having Marquez as your teammate is tough when the whole garage is on his side, sort of like the problem Ayrton Senna's teammates ran into, especially during his Lotus days.

I don't think his smooth approach would work on a bike that demands physicality and has the apex shape that it has. The bike is better than it has been for the last 3 seasons but its still the hardest of the factory bikes to ride. Sure being on one of the anointed factory bikes may seem good in theory to Zarco, but everything about his riding style says otherwise. He'll risk being the Alex Criville to Marquez's Michael Doohan. His confidence may be high right now, but part of it is because he has the pace to run with and beat the factory Yamaha machines due to their fuck-ups. The other part is he hasn't been tested by a teammate of Marquez's caliber.
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I think KTM is still his most likely and most logical landing spot. Iím sure he will have the #1 rider status and they will have a top 5 bike by 2020. I just think they need someone that can ride it.
They have 2 people who can ride a KTM properly, Miguel Oliveira and Brad Binder.
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Everyone assumes Zarco would do well on the RC213V, but it's not a ride-on-rails bike like the M1. Having Marquez as your teammate is tough when the whole garage is on his side, sort of like the problem Ayrton Senna's teammates ran into, especially during his Lotus days.

I don't think his smooth approach would work on a bike that demands physicality and has the apex shape that it has. The bike is better than it has been for the last 3 seasons but its still the hardest of the factory bikes to ride. Sure being on one of the anointed factory bikes may seem good in theory to Zarco, but everything about his riding style says otherwise. He'll risk being the Alex Criville to Marquez's Michael Doohan. His confidence may be high right now, but part of it is because he has the pace to run with and beat the factory Yamaha machines due to their fuck-ups. The other part is he hasn't been tested by a teammate of Marquez's caliber.
How do you know its the hardest factory bike to ride? To me the hardest bikes to ride are the crap ones and Honda don't do crap bikes.
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Everyone assumes Zarco would do well on the RC213V, but it's not a ride-on-rails bike like the M1. Having Marquez as your teammate is tough when the whole garage is on his side, sort of like the problem Ayrton Senna's teammates ran into, especially during his Lotus days.

I don't think his smooth approach would work on a bike that demands physicality and has the apex shape that it has. The bike is better than it has been for the last 3 seasons but its still the hardest of the factory bikes to ride. Sure being on one of the anointed factory bikes may seem good in theory to Zarco, but everything about his riding style says otherwise. He'll risk being the Alex Criville to Marquez's Michael Doohan. His confidence may be high right now, but part of it is because he has the pace to run with and beat the factory Yamaha machines due to their fuck-ups. The other part is he hasn't been tested by a teammate of Marquez's caliber.
I would like to see him on one of the ďwildĒ bikes and see what his adaptability is. The rcv has made several good riders look silly. Same with the Desmo. Thatís why I feel like cal will get that 2nd bike if Dani were to move one, which I donít see him leaving. They know the characteristic of the bike and Dani doesnít seem to be a threat and Cal may be in love with Marc so he wonít ruin their chances. Shit, he chucks his bike off the track so he can get back to the pits to wat h the races as frequently as he can
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Zarco shouldn't consider HRC or any Honda, as already mentioned Marquez would rule the roost and he would get very frustrated.
Duc would be interesting but I don't think Jorge is going anywhere, I predict he goes on a podium streak with some possible wins. Also Ducati seem intent on keeping its current rider line up. Having said that the GiGi Ducati is a machine I think Zarco could ride well.
Suzuki would fit his riding style for sure, only problem is it's Suzuki! Who the heck knows if they will be able to get that bike to the pointy end with their budget?
KTM has the money and ambition, it takes time to develop a proper race bike, but if they can't get a guy like Zarco to consider them there must be something else going on behind the scene we common folk know nothing about?
Ok, now for the part where I get ran off the forum.....Yamaha had the perfect opportunity to put Zarco on it's factory M1 next year but signed Vale to another contract. Not slagging Rossi folks, but damn, Yamaha can't honestly think he can win another championship?
Yea, I'll eat crow if Rossi pulls one out of his arse this year.
//L8
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