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April 9th, 2018, 03:59 PM   #71
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Watch the start of race again. Lorenzo gets shuffled wide in turn one, and exits in dead last. After that he was unable to maintain the pace of even the back markers. By the time MM done his ride through - Lap 4 or 5 - Bautista was leading Lorenzo by 2-3 seconds.

Marquez came out of pit lane just behind Bautista as Lorenzo was crossing the finish line.

In these conditions he surely is lost, and with performances like this he is killing his market value.

Lorenzo to Suzuki or KTM on maximum 4 million a year. If he's lucky!
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So they could certainly pay Dovi 10 mill and thats a bargain when you look at what Lorenzo's doing, I thought he was having a holiday break there was no sign of him on track after the first 5 mins.
Rumors say they are offering Dovi 6 (He gets 2, currently). He hasnít accepted it yet.

The J.Lo paycheck almost broke the bank for Ducati. It put their WSBK effort in jeopardy until Melandri offered to pay for his ride. Unlikely they will go that high for any rider anymore.
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12million per year, but they have already publicly said that he wasn’t going to get anywhere near that amount if the re sign him. Lorenzo’s recent attack on Dovi says his stint st Ducati is over and they will mutually part ways. Suzuki does not want Ianonne for numerous reasons and is almost assuredly gone. Zarco has a decision to make, financial security and never winning or going to a proven winner for less money and no guarantee at all that him and the bike will coexist. Smooth riders need not apply to the RCV, The only riders to have success on it are riders who grab a bull by the horns and force their will upon it. If I were him I would take the chance on Honda for less money and if it foesnt work out, one or both of the Yamahas will be available In 2021.

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12million per year, but they have already publicly said that he wasnít going to get anywhere near that amount if the re sign him. Lorenzoís recent attack on Dovi says his stint st Ducati is over and they will mutually part ways. Suzuki does not want Ianonne for numerous reasons and is almost assuredly gone. Zarco has a decision to make, financial security and never winning or going to a proven winner for less money and no guarantee at all that him and the bike will coexist. Smooth riders need not apply to the RCV, The only riders to have success on it are riders who grab a bull by the horns and force their will upon it. If I were him I would take the chance on Honda for less money and if it foesnt work out, one or both of the Yamahas will be available In 2021.
I agree re 2015 screamer Honda. The current bike looks more rideable. I rate him more talented than Cal. Zarco likely wonít go on winning streaks like Marquez but then he probably doesnít have to, just be a consistent points compiler like Dovi, no bad rounds or unwise collisions would keep him in the running
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Ive been wondering why very little has been said about the Zarco/Pedrosa incident. Looked far more serious than old sookentinos attempted late door close thence soccer dive. But apart from Pedrosa saying he has a sore wrist ..... its all been pretty hush hush. Honda have said nothing. Could this be a sign that Zarco/Honda negotiations are quite progressed?
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Ive been wondering why very little has been said about the Zarco/Pedrosa incident. Looked far more serious than old sookentinos attempted late door close thence soccer dive. But apart from Pedrosa saying he has a sore wrist ..... its all been pretty hush hush. Honda have said nothing. Could this be a sign that Zarco/Honda negotiations are quite progressed?


The journalists don't care as a Zarco-Pedrosa drama would never sell as much as a Rossi-Marquez one.

Rossi does not care about other riders either, his safety "concerns" are only attacks to Marquez. Yet when Zarco overtook him a bit aggressively (Austin 2017 I think) he accused him on the Italian TV, stating that "Zarco is not mean, he is just unable to ride at times".

And yet a lot of my mates keep asking me why I dislike the doctor. Lol
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The difference the way I saw it was Pedrosa opened the throttle on the wet part of track and highsided, making the whole thing look a lot worse than it was. Zarco didn’t make him high side he only pushed him wide.
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All Ducati needs to do IMHO is bringing Miller to the factory team.

One young, "impulsive" rider and a "quieter" veteran. They both seem easy going so I seriously doubt they'd have issues relating with each other.

I'm not even close to being a fan but I don't dislike Lorenzo at all. I really wanted him to do well on the Duc, but at this point it just can't be argued that it's not the bike for him.

I think he would perform fairly well on a Suzuki.

Also if things would go this way, Team Pramac could have a similar scenario with the younger guy/guy who's got more experience lining up Petrux and Bagnaia.

Although Petrux is rumored to be leaving, his possible destination being Aprilia or KTM.
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UPDATE: Alex Rins just re-signed with Suzuki for the 2019 and 2020 seasons.
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Watch the start of race again. Lorenzo gets shuffled wide in turn one, and exits in dead last. After that he was unable to maintain the pace of even the back markers. By the time MM done his ride through - Lap 4 or 5 - Bautista was leading Lorenzo by 2-3 seconds.

Marquez came out of pit lane just behind Bautista as Lorenzo was crossing the finish line.

In these conditions he surely is lost, and with performances like this he is killing his market value.

Lorenzo to Suzuki or KTM on maximum 4 million a year. If he's lucky!
It's pretty sad to watch. Lorenzo's only saviour this weekend is that other events will overshadow the issue of MM getting a ride through and still coming out ahead of him. And, as you say, that he can't maintain the back marker pace. I'd have thought someone of his calibre would have been able to keep up on my mum's step thru. Well, maybe not, but however awful he says the ducati is, it's not a step thru. And isn't Jack doing well on his first season with Ducati?

And I'm sorry, hate me all you want, but "The Incident" was hilarious. It was very clear very quickly that nobody was getting hurt - I'm not going to laugh at that. I think it might have been the gentle plop onto the grass, not sure. My over-riding thought when watching it was "holy shit if we thought he was getting booed before..."

The booing, incidentally, is why I haven't managed to regain any respect for Rossi since 2015, and why I cannot take any Rossi fan's comments to heart - massive crowds of yellow booing... get over yourselves shit heads, and read some of Rossi's earlier press releases/comments - he's well known as an agressive ride and now says he's scared... Maybe there'll be big boo signs with a 46 in the corner on sale soon, to save the voices of the folowwy ones.
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