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April 5th, 2018, 04:28 AM   #31
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A bit of a crime has been committed with regards Zarco not getting a good Yammy ride.

Yamaha are dicks.
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Yeah about KTM I think people haven't figured out they aren't going to be overhauling Honda, Yamaha, or Ducati any time soon. All this talk about KTM and their commitment means fuck all as they have Mount Everest in front of them. Let me know when they can outperform Suzuki.
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Since the 4-stroke era commenced, Ducati is the only non-Japanese factory to win a world championship.
And that was really only because of the huge regulation change that Ducati got on top of before everyone else, along with the perfect storm of Stoner joining the team. I expect KTM to become a regular front runner in a few years, but I agree they won't be overhauling HRC soon. I believe they have a 5 year plan.

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A bit of a crime has been committed with regards Zarco not getting a good Yammy ride.

Yamaha are dicks.
Yup, they have decided that selling T Shirts is a priority over having 2 race winning riders.
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other then Honda and Ducati, KTM is the only other factory that has really made a significant commitment in recent years to their Motogp program in terms of capital and personal... look at what Red Bull did in F1, they put up the money and that got them the top engineers on the grid. its going to take some time to recruit those engineers, and build the bike, but I do not doubt that KTM will be a solid contender in the year future.

just another thought, should Honda dump Pedrosa for Zarco, would Pedrosa be a good fit for KTM?
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other then Honda and Ducati, KTM is the only other factory that has really made a significant commitment in recent years to their Motogp program in terms of capital and personal... look at what Red Bull did in F1, they put up the money and that got them the top engineers on the grid. its going to take some time to recruit those engineers, and build the bike, but I do not doubt that KTM will be a solid contender in the year future.

just another thought, should Honda dump Pedrosa for Zarco, would Pedrosa be a good fit for KTM?
Sure Red Bull F1 did good for 4 years when the engines were frozen and the chassis specs were of benefit to Adrian Newey in order to design. But Red Bull was also cheating with their flexi-wings and other flexi-parts. As soon as the engine formula changed they were done and have been done. They got outspent by Mercedes who put over 1 billion into the design of their hybrid engine and the rest of manufacturers were caught napping. They are at the front part of the grid yes, but they have no real chance of winning the title. The best they can hope for is to pick off a win or two if that's even possible.

In this scenario you could swap Mercedes for HRC.
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other then Honda and Ducati, KTM is the only other factory that has really made a significant commitment in recent years to their Motogp program in terms of capital and personal... look at what Red Bull did in F1, they put up the money and that got them the top engineers on the grid. its going to take some time to recruit those engineers, and build the bike, but I do not doubt that KTM will be a solid contender in the year future.

just another thought, should Honda dump Pedrosa for Zarco, would Pedrosa be a good fit for KTM?
I think Pedro going to ktm would be good for ktm to get them some higher grid positions. If so they can’t tailor a bike to him or they will be doing their program a disservice. He’s tiny and Honda tried that in 07-08. That worked out poorly as we know. He would probably help identify problems But I’ve never heard a lot about his development skills. Maybe make the jump seem more inticinf for otherrs. I would like to see him end up there but I don’t know why he would want to at this point. As for Zarco, others have mentioned this but he would have a struggle on his hands with that Honda. Between being paired with the best rider on the grid and a bike many have said is a bear to ride with a steep learning curve. And I know because I know the jNitor at the local Honda shop. Kidding of corse.

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other then Honda and Ducati, KTM is the only other factory that has really made a significant commitment in recent years to their Motogp program in terms of capital and personal... look at what Red Bull did in F1, they put up the money and that got them the top engineers on the grid. its going to take some time to recruit those engineers, and build the bike, but I do not doubt that KTM will be a solid contender in the year future.

just another thought, should Honda dump Pedrosa for Zarco, would Pedrosa be a good fit for KTM?
Pedrosa would be a great signing for either KTM or Suzuki. The jury is still out on whether Zarco will be as good as Pedrosa in the class and for KTM or Suzuki there would be no better rider available to show the true level of their bike with genuinely elite rider on it.
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Pedrosa would be a great signing for either KTM or Suzuki. The jury is still out on whether Zarco will be as good as Pedrosa in the class and for KTM or Suzuki there would be no better rider available to show the true level of their bike with genuinely elite rider on it.
Lorenzo really needs to be on the Suzuki. Don't think he will leave Ducati unless they show him the door, or he has another questionable season. It's a shame Rossi re-upped as I think him retiring would have led Lorenzo back to Yamaha. Plus he wouldn't have to deal with the toxic atmosphere.

Pedrosa might do better on a easier to turn bike that doesn't require the physicality of the RCV. But whether HRC is ready to cut him loose is another story. Having him as the second to MM keeps harmony in the garage. Zarco in there might not, and as I said, I'm not convinced he could make the jump from the M1 to the RCV. But anything is possible. This year's RCV looked really good at Losail which is a revelation for Honda.
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I don't see why Ducati want to keep Lorenzo, buy him out of his contract and promote either Petrucci or Miller.

having just watched an interview with Zarco, he says he does not like when the front wheel starts to slide, which is exactly what the Honda does.
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Here's a prediction for you, Zarco will ride for KTM.
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