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April 29th, 2018, 02:58 AM   #171
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I have a theory that MM pushes the Michelin front over the limit in the FP sessions to test the consistency of the tire. His crashes are all lowsides for the most part save that Silverstone high side last year. Since everyone else is not going to risk going down, it gives him an advantage with knowing where and what to look for on any given race weekend with the Michelin front, which was an absolute shit tire from the get go. I also don't believe their tires are consistent weekend to weekend as a way to try and mix things up if possible. So that leaves him spending FP sessions pushing to the edge of adhesion, or over it just to see what Michelin has brought that weekend.
Absolutely.
If everyone else is doing badly on the Honda, but Marc is winning the title and crashing 27 times in a season, it his willingness and ability to push the envelope that leads to his success.
With the Honda seeming to be better this year, there will probably be a drop in his crash numbers.
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I don't think Zarco has made a mistake, he certainly would have going to Honda as MM is not a smooth rider and the bike suits him, in fact I'd stick my neck out and say that if he had gone to Honda, he would never have the chance of a championship win.
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He seems to know how to fall properly, not saying shit can't go wrong, but it's as if he minimizes the risk of going down. His crash at COTA, he went right on his back to prevent any tumbling. The only crash that I think did a little damage was the Silverstone high side as he looked to be hurting somewhat from that. But all that being said, he can ride on a limit no one else can and I believe that's what pushing the bike to crash is all about. He crashes with purpose. Cuntslow crashes because he is a fucking moron.

Hahahaha I like that Zarco analogy. It's perfect. I think that's literally going to go down as one of the stupidest moves in recent history besides Lorenzo going to Ducati, albeit he was running from the cancer on the other side of the garage.
Which can be problematic if he gets too much distance between him and a realistic sense of possible consequence. I of course draw no parallel between MM and a so so club rider, but I remember one weekend where all practices and race were run in the rain at Loudon. I was with a bunch of Irish friends who were pushing me to ride harder in the rain and I kept crashing in the same two turns, and getting up unharmed and I got way overconfident and had a crazy high-side that trashed the bike, tho I walked away again uninjured. My confidence was at an all time high. Point being - I think all riders have to be in a state of denial about the possibility of injury, otherwise they'd be in too much fear to ride.
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I don't think Zarco has made a mistake, he certainly would have going to Honda as MM is not a smooth rider and the bike suits him, in fact I'd stick my neck out and say that if he had gone to Honda, he would never have the chance of a championship win.
Weird... this morning I woke up remembering a post by Povol talking about how riders are likely not as motivated by winning as we'd like to imagine, and more motivated by the Benjamins. And I'm starting to think he's right. I used to write for various publications and tried to make a career of it. In the beginning I got a lot of satisfaction at seeing my stuff in print - but after a while it didn't matter as much because I really wanted the bucks to validate the value of what I did. I'm sure a lot of these guys are really idealistic when they start out - but when they get to the top of the heap in Moto GP - they know there's no further they can go and there's only so many good years and always the specter of life-defining injury that can put an end to it at any time. So - fuck it, why not take the money and run?
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Weird... this morning I woke up remembering a post by Povol talking about how riders are likely not as motivated by winning as we'd like to imagine, and more motivated by the Benjamins. And I'm starting to think he's right. I used to write for various publications and tried to make a career of it. In the beginning I got a lot of satisfaction at seeing my stuff in print - but after a while it didn't matter as much because I really wanted the bucks to validate the value of what I did. I'm sure a lot of these guys are really idealistic when they start out - but when they get to the top of the heap in Moto GP - they know there's no further they can go and there's only so many good years and always the specter of life-defining injury that can put an end to it at any time.
Absolutely, mate.
You see it in other sports, those who chase the money and those who want to build their legacy, for the latter money is not of importance.
You see it in the UFC, since the advent of Conor McGregor, there are guys just chasing the money, but there are others who still see themselves as pure martial artists.
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Pol has signed a new contract with KTM to take him to the end of 2020. So it looks like a Zarco/Espargaro lineup for them.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/89...ktm-until-2020

Given that Kallio is the established test rider, I very much doubt we'll see Smith in GP's next season.
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Pol has signed a new contract with KTM to take him to the end of 2020. So it looks like a Zarco/Espargaro lineup for them.

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/89...ktm-until-2020

Given that Kallio is the established test rider, I very much doubt we'll see Smith in GP's next season.
Whats the betting Zarco will bury him in his 1st year. I think Beirer has made a big mistake there.
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Absolutely.
If everyone else is doing badly on the Honda, but Marc is winning the title and crashing 27 times in a season, it his willingness and ability to push the envelope that leads to his success.
With the Honda seeming to be better this year, there will probably be a drop in his crash numbers.
You know he did that on purpose. He's that good. It's a tribute to you-know-who.
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Worst kept secret now confirmed.

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I think Pol did very well to get a contract before Zarco arrives. I agree with Theo that Zarco will bury him.
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