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January 25th, 2018, 04:25 PM   #41
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Hailwood was nowhere near the tallent of Stoner. How can you even try to compare him? Its not just based on paper .... seeing Stoner ride shows he has something nobody else has.

Because he won 9 world championships in the 500cc, 350cc and 250cc classes, he won races on singles, twins, 4 cylinders, 6 cylinders, 2 strokes and 4 strokes. He won on Ducatis, Nortons, Hondas, MV Agustas, MZ's, Suzukis and god knows what else in his formative years, probably Triumphs, Benellis, BSA's and all that. He raced at a time when the mortality rate for riders was the equivalent of Battle of Britain fighter pilots while riding on some of the most dangerous tracks in existence.

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Because he won 9 world championships in the 500cc, 350cc and 250cc classes, he won races on singles, twins, 4 cylinders, 6 cylinders, 2 strokes and 4 strokes. He won on Ducatis, Nortons, Hondas, MV Agustas, MZ's, Suzukis and god knows what else in his formative years, probably Triumphs, Benellis, BSA's and all that. He raced at a time when the mortality rate for riders was the equivalent of Battle of Britain fighter pilots while riding on some of the most dangerous tracks in existence.

Against what quality field? Comparatively ..... bikewise. Hailwood could always garner backing.

Mortalty rate !!? Are you seriously suggesting that is an admirable measure of the quality of a rider!!?
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Against what quality field? Comparatively ..... bikewise. Hailwood could always garner backing.

Mortalty rate !!? Are you seriously suggesting that is an admirable measure of the quality of a rider!!?

Agostini, Redman, Read, Ivy, Tavieri to name a few.

As for the mortality rate, that's what they had to deal with back then, bike failures were way more common. These younguns don't know they're born.
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Honda are testing some fairings

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Hailwood was nowhere near the talent of Stoner. How can you even try to compare him? Its not just based on paper .... seeing Stoner ride shows he has something nobody else has.
It's kind of pointless to compare the two. Different sets of riding skills. One could also argue that Hailwood's ability to compete on public road courses puts him in a different category due to the inherent danger. The ability to instantly access risk and act accordingly is one of the most important tools in the box. Also Hailwood was competitive in the premier classes for a much longer time.
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Looking awesome. I like the new fairings very mucho.
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Since we're discussing ancient, Australian history....
On this day in 1788, Captain Arthur Phillip and British colonists hoist the Union Flag at Sydney Cove, New South Wales, now celebrated as Australia Day

Happy bunch of cunts day to all you Aussie peeps.
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Since we're discussing ancient, Australian history....
On this day in 1788, Captain Arthur Phillip and British colonists hoist the Union Flag at Sydney Cove, New South Wales, now celebrated as Australia Day

Happy bunch of cunts day to all you Aussie peeps.



eez man, get with the times

That was yesterday over here (time zone differences)
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Since we're discussing ancient, Australian history....
On this day in 1788, Captain Arthur Phillip and British colonists hoist the Union Flag at Sydney Cove, New South Wales, now celebrated as Australia Day

Happy bunch of cunts day to all you Aussie peeps.
Speaking of old history I was thinking back to why I personally thought Hailwood was mediocre, and it came back to his performance in the late 70s here when he came out and ran mid pack. I think many from oversees came here to learn and many came thinking they would clean up ( even Ago got beaten at times ). I found this gem.



For a small nation we used to have a disproportionate amount of folk out there on weekends racing bikes.
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Speaking of old history I was thinking back to why I personally thought Hailwood was mediocre, and it came back to his performance in the late 70s here when he came out and ran mid pack. I think many from oversees came here to learn and many came thinking they would clean up ( even Ago got beaten at times ). I found this gem.



For a small nation we used to have a disproportionate amount of folk out there on weekends racing bikes.
That's not uncommon, I often think the same when somebody who's been racing on the world level drops "down" into BSB and ends up getting their bollocks handed to them by the regulars, Nori Haga for example, I think he got a single podium while his teammate challenged for the championship and apart from his first season John Hopkins has had a rough time here too. Hodgson when he went to AMA as well, I don't recall him winning a single race.
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