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January 8th, 2018, 08:03 AM   #21
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I agree, but see how far that argument gets you in a court of law
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Tech 3 is a well organized team, as well as any factory team on the grid, if Yamaha decides to dump them I do not think it would be hard for them to find another factory to support them. Personally I think KTM would be a good partner for them, sooner then later they will be a factor in this championship.
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Initially I thought that too, but a potential stumbling block is Herve likes to choose his own riders to an extent that Yamaha allows (The only direct Yam contracted factory riders to ride Tech 3 were Spies and Asparagus iirc). KTM will no doubt insist on running their rising stars from Moto2.
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I can't help but wonder where Uccio will end up when Rossi will be able to carry his own ipad?
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January 8th, 2018, 11:00 PM   #26
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Tech 3 is a well organized team, as well as any factory team on the grid, if Yamaha decides to dump them I do not think it would be hard for them to find another factory to support them. Personally I think KTM would be a good partner for them, sooner then later they will be a factor in this championship.
I personally suspect that KTM would be a brilliant fit as they would no doubt provide high levels of expertise and support to Tech3 (were it to happen) as they will still be establishing themselves, as opposed to having been established.

But there is the elephant in the room of riders as 22 mentions and whether riders would want to go to KTM at this stage, and/or whether KTM would allow free range choice of riders.


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Initially I thought that too, but a potential stumbling block is Herve likes to choose his own riders to an extent that Yamaha allows (The only direct Yam contracted factory riders to ride Tech 3 were Spies and Asparagus iirc). KTM will no doubt insist on running their rising stars from Moto2.
My thoughts and I fully understand KTM's approach if they do decide to push that way.

Why not provide a definite path for their lower capacity riders that achieve as by providing a 'softer' path (softer meaning a less profile entry team) it lessens the pressure and expectation of being a fully factory rider.

What I do hope does not occur is that Tech3 get shafted to a non competitive machine as for me, they have been supremely successful even if they have yet to win a race
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I can't help but wonder where Uccio will end up when Rossi will be able to carry his own ipad?
Someone will need to clean the screen of the iPad
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I'm sure Uccio has more money than all of us together, so I think we don't have to worry about him.
First of all I think that tech 3 will win a race in 2018 with zarco and then they find an agreement either with Yamaha or with KTM or Suzuki.
Dorna will made new contracts and new rules especially for Valentino when he's going to join with his own team, as they did for Marquez with the rookie and the factory bike ride when he arrived in 2013.
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The point you are choosing to miss/overlook is that rules and contracts can be separate things.

The rookie rule was a rule implemented to try to force riders to go to a satellite team before becoming available for factory team rides. This rule was in place for a short time and was repealed at Honda's behest, said to be so that they could be Marquez on the bike that Stoner was vacating.

The limitation as to the number of bikes is, whilst also a rule likely bound in contracts for those already competing and or competing in future. In essence, there will be teams today (KTM for example) who may have signed a contract with DORNA on the understanding that the maximum number of bikes on the grid would be 24. These teams have likely based income and expenditure projections on this very number.

Now, if the number is increased beyond 24 by a rule change, thence DORNA may well have breached contracts of these member teams with the increased number of bikes having the potential to lessen the income available to those member teams which means projections , out the window.

There is a significant different between a rookie rule abolition and breach of contracts.

No teams joined due to the rookie rule, but the real potential is that a number of teams that competed in 2017 signed contracts and did so based on 24 bikes being the number for a specific contracted period
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What I do hope does not occur is that Tech3 get shafted to a non competitive machine as for me, they have been supremely successful even if they have yet to win a race
Time will tell, Maybe KTM will compromise and choose 1 rider with Tech3 choosing the other. Of the teams they could tie up with, Tech 3 is probably the most organised.

Ironic that LCR AND VDS have won a race in their relatively short GP tenure, while poor old Tech3 are the eternal bridesmaid.
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