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January 6th, 2018, 04:18 PM   #11
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I'd like to think Dovi's confidence will be at an all-time high going into 2018. If Ducati's been doing their job over the winter - he should come out slugging. Lorenzo's had a whole season to adjust to the Duc. I'll be surprised if he does a whole lot better than last year.
Not unless Ducati throw all their support behind Dovi and cut Jorge out of the loop, which would possibly not be entirely undeserved, imo.

He was actually getting quite fast on the thing towards the end of last season. As always with him, it will also depend on what tyres Michelin bring this seaso.
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Not unless Ducati throw all their support behind Dovi and cut Jorge out of the loop, which would possibly not be entirely undeserved, imo.

He was actually getting quite fast on the thing towards the end of last season. As always with him, it will also depend on what tyres Michelin bring this seaso.
That's the kind of thing that drives me crazy with some of these teams. From a purely practical point - it would make sense to put resources behind the rider with the most merit, ie: the one who accumulates the most points and is the least finicky about tires. If Ducati puts Dovi on the back-burner the way Honda did to Nicky - I think it will earn them a good deal of ill will, especially from the Italian fans. But of course - Lorenzo is the one with the fattest contract, the one with whom Ducati are most invested. I'd like to think they will do the right thing, but as usual, I'm not holding my breath.
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That's the kind of thing that drives me crazy with some of these teams. From a purely practical point - it would make sense to put resources behind the rider with the most merit, ie: the one who accumulates the most points and is the least finicky about tires. If Ducati puts Dovi on the back-burner the way Honda did to Nicky - I think it will earn them a good deal of ill will, especially from the Italian fans. But of course - Lorenzo is the one with the fattest contract, the one with whom Ducati are most invested. I'd like to think they will do the right thing, but as usual, I'm not holding my breath.
What Honda did with Nicky was a disgrace. I remember when Nicky first tested the Honda RC212V, he immediately said its biggest problem was a lack of power. Dani said the power was sufficient. Honda followed Dani's input, and focused on Dani's concerns.

After the first few races, Dani was crying for more power.
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What Honda did with Nicky was a disgrace. I remember when Nicky first tested the Honda RC212V, he immediately said its biggest problem was a lack of power. Dani said the power was sufficient. Honda followed Dani's input, and focused on Dani's concerns.

After the first few races, Dani was crying for more power.
I think Ducati at least, with only 1 title, will go with the rider that gives them the best chance of a championship, as they did in 2007 despite Stoner basically starting as a 1 year placeholder. I do think if Jorge has suitable tyres with a year’s experience on the bike will be fast on the bike if Dovi is, if not as consistently fast as Dovi.

Nicky at HRC particularly in 2006 was ridiculous. I don’t know how much influence Repsol and Puig had, but it almost seemed in 2006 that they would rather not win unless they could win with Pedrosa.
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I think Ducati at least, with only 1 title, will go with the rider that gives them the best chance of a championship, as they did in 2007 despite Stoner basically starting as a 1 year placeholder. I do think if Jorge has suitable tyres with a yearís experience on the bike will be fast on the bike if Dovi is, if not as consistently fast as Dovi.

Nicky at HRC particularly in 2006 was ridiculous. I donít know how much influence Repsol and Puig had, but it almost seemed in 2006 that they would rather not win unless they could win with Pedrosa.
He was very fast towards the end of the season. I still think Dovi will edge him, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jorge stepped up again.

2006 was incomprehensible. HRC were still making him test parts for the 800 all the way up to the Phillip Island round (and the stupid 'evo' clutch caused him to fall back from pole position to 13th or 14th in that race!).
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