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November 13th, 2017, 04:28 AM   #11
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And neither have you, so why are you preaching to me?

Read Rossi’s bio while you’re at it too. See how Graziano has to struggle for years to get his kid a decent ride. How Valentino raced his way up through the nationals, with many factors against him until he could get a world championship ride. Or how he had to unlearn and relearn riding when he moved to 250s. And so on.

You guys make it seem like he was born one day and the next day someone put him on top of Doohan’s NSR500.

Oh, and Rossi was way closer to SIC58 than Stoner ever was. Hell, they collided on that fateful day. I sincerely doubt that affected Stoner any more than it did Rossi.

Maybe the latter should have put on a crybaby diva act as well and went fishing?
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Remember how Rossi threatened to retire if he had to stay at Ducati, at which point Carmelo worked to get him back to Yamaha against the race teams wishes. Melandri went from promising talent to having to see a shrink and then refusing to go back to the GP recently all because of that bike and factory.

Edit let's add: 2006 mistake under pressure, 2007/2008 ultimatum of give me Bridgestones or I will retire, 2010 ultimatum of favour me over Lorenzo or I'll leave, 2012 ultimatum of if I have to stay at Ducati I'll retire, 2015 total meltdown. Bwing petulant and entitled doesn't mean you're mentally strong, most don't get their own way in doing so. If Rossi had to put up with what Stoner did, he would've been gone a long time ago and if given stoner second rate machinery through 125s, 250s and as he entered the premierclass he might not have ever won a championship.
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Rossi got a very privileged upbringing compared to Stoner. Son of a former GP racer and pretty much wanted for nothing as a kid. Reading his biography gave me the impression he was very spoiled and didn't apply himself until he decided he fancied racing bikes.

Stoner on the other hand, wanted to be a bike racer all his life. He and his family relocated from sunny and warm Australia to living in a caravan eating beans on toast in cold and wet Cheshire. The stress alone of moving to a new country is unfathomable to anyone who;s never done it, let alone if you family mortgaged everything they had on the gamble you were going to make it. That sort of stress at such a young age is the reason Stoner got fed up and retired early, especially when he discovered the Carmelo Clause in MotoGP.
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You must have read a very different biography than the one I did because that is not what I read.

The only privilege he got was that his dad was a former racer. He wanted to race since he was a kid too, the only thing was he couldn’t choose between bikes and karting. Graziano told him flat out that they didn’t have the money for karting. So bikes it was.

He started on a used bike that had seen much better days. All of this is in the book if you actually read it.
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I did read it, and you clearly skipped through the parts where he was acting out and getting into trouble with the local law for things like street racing and generally being a dickhead.

Keep that head buried in the sand.
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Yeah, everyone should be a moody introvert like bucktooth. Shame on them for actually having some fun in their younger days!
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What makes you think Stoner didn't have fun? Again in your blindness you miss the point.

What did you think of Lorenzo's post race "Lorenzoland" celebrations in his early MotoGP days by the way?
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Yeah, everyone should be a moody introvert like bucktooth. Shame on them for actually having some fun in their younger days!
It must eat you up that Stoner emarressed your boy in the 6 years they were both on factory bikes.
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I don’t have a “a boy”.

It must eat you up that Bucktooth can’t ride anymore without adult diapers because everyone is mean to him and that makes him poop himself.
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To be fair to Stoner he's having his fun now, he gets to pick and choose what he does.

I'm not surprised he got fed up with GP though as I was approaching the end of my tether with it around then too.
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I donít have a ďa boyĒ.

It must eat you up that Bucktooth canít ride anymore without adult diapers because everyone is mean to him and that makes him poop himself.
Lol remember Rossi's meltdown because he thought Marquez was mean to him? Imagine how he would feel if fans spat on him for winning or the media went to his house to attack him for winning.

Funnily enough last time both Rossi and Stoner were on the same track Stoner jumped on a Ducati and went faster than Rossi on his Yamaha even though he hadn't ridden in a couple of years. It doesn't eat me up that Stoner isn't racing anymore, he accomplished what people thought he couldn't, he made Rossi look not only mortal but totally inferior and in the end he won. His success meant that in the end DORNA bought in a control tyre that ended Rossi's equipment advantages and the moment they went so did Rossi's dominance.
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