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November 22nd, 2017, 12:42 AM   #151
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Oh look, they let Barbie out for her weekly 30 minutes in the courtyard again!
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I can think of Conor McGregor in the UFC.

He is (was?) extremely popular and brought a lot of casual eyes to the UFC, who sometimes bent over backwards to accommodate him. You could say he is very Rossi like.

I am not a fan of his. I don't like his rabid fanbase or the shit that he and they say about his opponents.
But I don't particularly care about that because I am a grown ass person who knows how to separate the sport from the drama. And neither do his opponents like Nate Diaz care. As vudu said, this is the real world. Not everyone is super nice all the time and if they appear to be so, they are putting on a hell of a show.

Stoner got affected by Rossi negativity. Ok, poor him and his precious feelings.
Ask Biaggi how it turned out when he tried to break Rossi. I can think of a middle finger at 300 km/h.
Super nice like Kenny Roberts, Rainey, Schwantz, Doohan or even Gardner riding bikes that were much more of a threat than opposing riders?.

Rainey and Schwantz reputedly hated each other, but settled it on the track, having no need to enlist undiscriminating fanboys, who probably split their time between cheering crashes wearing yellow and soccer hooliganism, to aid their cause.

What exactly has Rossi proved in the last 8 years?. Persistence is all perhaps?. If he was out there for the love of the sport and the pure love of competition as I thought he was back in 2014 I would say good luck and all praise to him btw. He never needed the 10th title, which I have been expecting him to begin referring to as "the precious" for over 2 years now, to prove anything, everyone including those with whom you take issue on here recognised him as Ago's superior well before 2009. All he has done since is demonstrate feet of clay, and that having once had extraordinary talent he can still pick up the crumbs by manipulating matters to be on superior equipment, after proving uncompetitive in the 2 years during which for the first time he didn't have such equipment.
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November 22nd, 2017, 02:23 AM   #153
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You forget that there was no social media or citizen reporting back in the golden era.
A lot of dirt that you currently read is thanks to that. If these channels existed a couple of decades ago, not to mention forums, I guarantee that a lot more have been discussed than what we currently do now.
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You forget that there was no social media or citizen reporting back in the golden era.
A lot of dirt that you currently read is thanks to that. If these channels existed a couple of decades ago, not to mention forums, I guarantee that a lot more have been discussed than what we currently do now.
What, Kenny Roberts and Wayne Rainey, the latter so totally dignified even after being rendered paraplegic by the sport would have demonstrated on social media that they have no self respect?. Wayne Gardner and Kevin Schwantz maybe, admittedly. I can't see see any of them having handbag fights with Max Biaggi however.

You would also appear to be someone who follows UFC and considers it to be a sport. I rest my case.

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You would also appear to be someone who follows UFC and considers it to be a sport. I rest my case.
When you canít argue the topic anymore and have to resort to ad hominem, thatís when I know youíve lost.

Rest your case. There wasnít much of it anyway.
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When you can’t argue the topic anymore and have to resort to ad hominem, that’s when I know you’ve lost.

Rest your case. There wasn’t much of it anyway.
No, it was exactly my point, which I have made repeatedly. GP bike racing isn't, or hasn't been anyway, WWE wrestling or UFC fighting.

Unsurprisingly your familiarity with the concept of irony is demonstrably poor also, ad hominem and the straw man logical fallacy being the main constituent of your posts from the get go.

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You’re not remotely as smart as I considered you to be.

Firstly, you made the point of comparing GP racing to other sports. Secondly, you referred to another person’s example of boxing, which is a combat sport like the UFC.
Lastly, pro wrestling is scripted entertainment with an athletic component, not a sport and belongs nowhere in this discussion.

Now can you stop shifting goalposts and get back to where we were on topic, which is that social media has played a big part in how we support or antagonize sportsmen (including GP riders) compared to the previous eras?
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Ask Biaggi how it turned out when he tried to break Rossi. I can think of a middle finger at 300 km/h.
Ask Rossi how it turned out when he tried to break Lorenzo and Marquez. 2010 and 2015 are just two that come to mind.
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And yet heís still around for another fight while Biaggi had to runaway to WSBK after even getting Rossiís bike to mount a challenge and still failing...

Funny bringing up 2010 and 2015 though. After getting creamed for a couple of years, J.Lo needed a broken leg to get one up on Rossi in 2010 and a letís say, accommodating compatriot in 2015 to do it again. I am sure he broke Rossi on the track like the golden era examples discussed earlier.

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You’re not remotely as smart as I considered you to be.

Firstly, you made the point of comparing GP racing to other sports. Secondly, you referred to another person’s example of boxing, which is a combat sport like the UFC.
Lastly, pro wrestling is scripted entertainment with an athletic component, not a sport and belongs nowhere in this discussion.

Now can you stop shifting goalposts and get back to where we were on topic, which is that social media has played a big part in how we support or antagonize sportsmen (including GP riders) compared to the previous eras?
The latter is a point I made myself, and I also said motogp wasn't WWE yet. I also have a long term view independent of you that UFC is not a legitimate sport either, precisely because of the scripted rivalries, and also because like boxing which I followed in my youth and which does involve a modicum of skill I can't countenance a sport in this day of CTE in which the primary object or one of the primary objects is to concuss an opponent so badly as to prevent them continuing. Are you going to tell me results are not contrived in boxing, btw?. UFC looks similar to me, not that I watch it as I said.

You continue to make my point about you having little to offer other than ad hominem and the straw man logical fallacy btw, while my point that I expect a UFC fan to have the attitude you have to gp bike racing is more a point about your attitude and arguments than your intelligence, although if you wish to abstract/draw an implication about your own intelligence from said argument I feel no necessity to stop you.

As far as posters not being as smart as I (or they for that matter) think they are, while I thought you were having some fun without malice and satirising/providing a counterpoint to posters on here including me for being over the top about Rossi I replied in kind. You now reveal yourself to have been merely pretending to have some perspective/sense of humour about him, and have outed yourself by getting to the Valeban doctrinal stuff ie Rossi definitely winning in 2010 sans the broken leg and but for a plot in 2015, so you should perhaps not be surprised if how I respond to your posts in kind changes.

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