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November 20th, 2017, 07:23 AM   #101
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Ah, who was the last guy to win a MotoGP championship, Rossi or Stoner? I guess relevance depends on what you consider relevant. MM has won four ships and JLo has won three and Rossi has won none in this same time period. Let us again, without calling the Spanish cheats, figure out who may have a problem cracking under pressure.

Mr. Rossi can still ride very fast, however his relevance to winning the series championship may be fading faster than Uccio's cut-off jeans. It always strikes me odd that younger people get hung up as Rossi fans, when I, a really old fvck, likes the young Marquez. Go figure.
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figure out who may have a problem cracking under pressure.
The one who is still racing or the one who picked his ball up and went home scowling...?

Gee, thatís a tough one to figure out!
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Funny how Doohan is never brought up but Stoner is in every other thread.
Doohan wiped the floor in GP like Stoner never did.
It just proves what I've known for a long time. Doohan never raced Rossi and Boners only like Stoner out of their hate for Rossi.
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Well, I was actually talking about Rossi versus the Spaniards. I thought that was clear. You just don't seem to understand that Rossi hasn't won the championship in EIGHT YEARS. And if you don't think he has cracked OPENLY under pressure, I guess you wear yellow colored glasses. And Stoner beat him the last two years they raced each other. I am not sure what you are missing.

There is no point to come here and be another Stoner hater. I didn't come here as another Rossi hater. He is just past his time. Since 2006, he has broken under pressure several times. And personally, I think the series would be better off without him. He sucks up too much money and energy from the series. Just like in this conversation.

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Forum logic: Pedrosa has cracked and crumbled under pressure as he has never won a MotoGP championship. So has Dovi. And so did Stoner between 2007 and 2012.

Because if you don’t win the championship, you have clearly cracked under pressure.

P.s. if you run away because you can’t compete, you have not cracked under pressure.
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Funny how Doohan is never brought up but Stoner is in every other thread.
Doohan wiped the floor in GP like Stoner never did.
It just proves what I've known for a long time. Doohan never raced Rossi and Boners only like Stoner out of their hate for Rossi.
Maybe also because Doohan picked Rossi as his heir apparent and not Stoner?
Doohan was dominant. Rossi was dominant. Stoner won two championships years apart.

They donít belong in the same discussion.
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He sucks up too much money and energy from the series. Just like in this conversation.
Forum logic part 2: The guy who brings in the biggest merchandise sales, the guy who makes millions tune in, the guy who has more name value recognition than anyone else currently racing... is sucking up money from the series.

I hope you donít manage the books of any company. Because thatís just terrible reasoning.
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Doohan won 5 consecutive championships with 1 leg.
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Funny how Doohan is never brought up but Stoner is in every other thread.
Doohan wiped the floor in GP like Stoner never did.
It just proves what I've known for a long time. Doohan never raced Rossi and Boners only like Stoner out of their hate for Rossi.
Actually this post probably goes a long way towards proving what several posters on here think about you ie that you have little interest in actual bike racing or discussing it and engage in the forum mainly to snipe at other posters.

If you had actually been reading the posts in your ten years of involvrment you would know that most of the long term fans on here are major Doohan fans, particularly the Australians, and that hardly anyone would rate Stoner his superior, Mick’s status being so obvious particularly as a byword for toughness and detraction from him being so ridiculous that even the Valeban/boppers (those that have heard of him) don’t attack him and hence his fans have no necessity to defend him. I myself actually posted on another forum as Doohanfan. The situation is the reverse of what you argue, it is actually because many on this forum followed the sport during the era of Doohan and the great American golden era 500 gp riders that the perspective on here is different, particularly an awareness that gp bike racing history didn’t begin with Rossi.
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Forum logic part 2: The guy who brings in the biggest merchandise sales, the guy who makes millions tune in, the guy who has more name value recognition than anyone else currently racing... is sucking up money from the series.

I hope you donít manage the books of any company. Because thatís just terrible reasoning.
Yes of course he brings money to the sport. That is the problem actually, the financial benefit he brings them is exactly why a rider who hasnít won a title for 8 years has undue influence on the merchant bankers/venture capitalists who run the sport, and why the sport still has such a disproportionate focus on him despite there being a 25 year old out there competing who is as good as Rossi was when he was 25 rather than rising 39 as he is now.
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