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October 31st, 2017, 01:19 AM   #1
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Yamahas woes

I thought it would be good to get opinions from those more knowledgeable than me about the Yamaha and their problems.

Yamaha are on their third version of the m1 this year and still haven't looked to make a dramatically improve their results. When Honda were having their issues it took probably two and a bit seasons to have them pretty much sorted. Will Yamaha be in the same boat? Or do they have the ability to fix the problem overnight but Vinales and Rossi just aren't that great at giving the feedback needed to fix the problem?

Is next year going to be another battle between Ducati and Honda while Yamaha scratch their heads and wonder why they can't fix the problem?
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I don't think I'm more knowledgeable than anyone but the way i see it, Yamaha didn't seem to have any problems at the start of the year.
It was only when they tried to fix the problems that they didn't have, they ran into trouble.
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I thought it would be good to get opinions from those more knowledgeable than me about the Yamaha and their problems.

Yamaha are on their third version of the m1 this year and still haven't looked to make a dramatically improve their results. When Honda were having their issues it took probably two and a bit seasons to have them pretty much sorted. Will Yamaha be in the same boat? Or do they have the ability to fix the problem overnight but Vinales and Rossi just aren't that great at giving the feedback needed to fix the problem?

Is next year going to be another battle between Ducati and Honda while Yamaha scratch their heads and wonder why they can't fix the problem?
I think its obvious that Rossi whining about the bike was due to Vinales getting the better of him in the 1st few races, so he wants a new bike and they bring out some old crock of crap that can be beaten by anyone on a half decent machine. Then they try the 3rd bike which again is no good but at least Rossi winds up in most cases in front of his team mate.
Looking at it like that and bearing in mind Vinales did quite well in 16 on a bike that was short on hp. I think they need to see what Vinales says and not rely on what Rossi wants, after all he's 15 years younger and certainly knows what suits him ie the 1st bike of 2017.
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Yamaha hoes, I love them.
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Straight from the horse's ass er mouth
Rossi:
"Maverick was fast and he continued to like [the bike]," said Rossi. "He is the guy with more points so I have to speak more about me, I am coming from another story.

"Maverick doesn't have any history with Yamaha before coming from Suzuki.

"He likes this because he thinks this is the Yamaha, but for me that I know more of the evolution of the bike I think with the 2017 version we lose something.

Vinales was perfectly happy with the 2017 M1 and the Michelin but since it didn't feel like Yamahas of the past, Rossi demanded everything be scrapped. Yamaha are fucking fools for throwing away a title or at the very least a serious title run, just to appease a guy who will never vie for another title. I would personally like to thank Rossi for almost assuredly handing Marquez the title. Since his revolt to have the Michelin front changed, Marc and Dovi have won 11 of the 12 races since, and both were seriously struggling up to that point. Thanks again champ.
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Straight from the horse's ass er mouth
Rossi:
"Maverick was fast and he continued to like [the bike]," said Rossi. "He is the guy with more points so I have to speak more about me, I am coming from another story.

"Maverick doesn't have any history with Yamaha before coming from Suzuki.

"He likes this because he thinks this is the Yamaha, but for me that I know more of the evolution of the bike I think with the 2017 version we lose something.
Where's the link to this interview? It sounds like Rossi is blaming Maverick for the reverse direction of development.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
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Where's the link to this interview? It sounds like Rossi is blaming Maverick for the reverse direction of development.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
What I hear him saying is, it doesn't matter if you are fast Maverick, this is not how the Yamaha should feel and what's important is MeMeMe. Trust me, when I get this bike the way I like it you will thank me. Wink wink
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Thnx for posting JP, Pov, this is an old interview, not sure why its being discussed currently.

Anyway, I thought this quote was hilarious:

"He [Vinalez] likes this because he thinks this is the Yamaha, but for me that I know more of the evolution of the bike I think with the 2017 version we lose something."

How arrogant and disconnected can Rossi be? Vinalez "thinks this is the Yamaha"? Uhm, no, its not the Yamaha Rossi? Newsflash mothatfukers, THIS IS the Yamaha YOU developed for 2017! It IS the Rossi Yamaha because Lorenzo was eliminated from the development picture. Rossi is acting like it was spawned from some unknown entity and appeared magically in the garage. Weak ass reporters. Vinalez doesn't know this bike isn't the Yamaha way Rossi declares, this bike is shit, well mothafukers you're the only one who told them to put it together this way.
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