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November 13th, 2017, 12:37 AM   #61
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In the style of P4P1 I just want to declare that I called this first .... the moment they let Lorenzo get away ( see the "WTF have yamaha done " thread )



Ps .... I expect your adulations Gaz.
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November 13th, 2017, 12:40 AM   #62
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You defend Stoner for calling it quits early, but want to criticize Rossi for competing longer than you think he should?
You are being?


Incredulous?
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November 13th, 2017, 12:49 AM   #63
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In the style of P4P1 I just want to declare that I called this first .... the moment they let Lorenzo get away ( see the "WTF have yamaha done " thread )



Ps .... I expect your adulations Gaz.
Ah yes, the same Lorenzo who had to wait until Rossi left the team for a shitty bike in order to win a world championship! Big loss there.

Gigi is currently writing “Dear Lin” emails proclaiming how lucky he is to have George in his team.
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Ah yes, the same Lorenzo who had to wait until Rossi left the team for a shitty bike in order to win a world championship! Big loss there.

Gigi is currently writing “Dear Lin” emails proclaiming how lucky he is to have George in his team.
Are you suggesting Yamaha are doing well!!!???
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November 13th, 2017, 12:56 AM   #65
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No, I am suggesting that Yamaha’s poor performance has nothing to do with not having Lorenzo around.
The guy has been a cancer for everyone around him in the 250s, he was the same at Yamaha and it only took him a year to do a triple whammy at Ducati.
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November 13th, 2017, 12:58 AM   #66
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No, I am suggesting that Yamaha’s poor performance has nothing to do with not having Lorenzo around.
The guy has been a cancer for everyone around him in the 250s, he was the same at Yamaha and it only took him a year to do a triple whammy at Ducati.
Well clearly you are a fruitcake bopper.
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November 13th, 2017, 12:59 AM   #67
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Ah yes, the same Lorenzo who had to wait until Rossi left the team for a shitty bike in order to win a world championship! Big loss there.

Gigi is currently writing “Dear Lin” emails proclaiming how lucky he is to have George in his team.
Actually Ducati has come out and said that Dovi is good but Lorenzos input has been invaluable to the team. Also 2008 Lorenzo was made to run a different tyre to his team mate even though the bike was developed for the Bridgestones, 2009 Rossi had the advantage of experience on the Bridgestones. Rossi was still a team mate in 2010 when Lorenzo won his first title and more importantly that shitty bike Rossi left for had won 3 of the last 6 races in 2010. I would say that's pretty good form for a bike going into a new season.
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November 13th, 2017, 01:00 AM   #68
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You defend Stoner for calling it quits early, but want to criticize Rossi for competing longer than you think he should?
I actually wouldn’t have a problem with him continuing in a Pedrosa role. One time I actually warmed to him was after the Ducati adventure when MM was smashing everyone and he said that he was happy merely to be still out there and competitive, while Jorge and Dani couldn’t accept having no chance for the title, or words to that general effect.

He seems to have gone back to situation normal now however, and while he is there seems to require the sport to be all about him, hence my view that he is holding the sport in general and Yamaha in particular to ransom, while the careers of worthy younger riders continue to be blighted for the sin of beating him.
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November 13th, 2017, 01:03 AM   #69
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Well clearly you are a fruitcake bopper.
I don’t even know what that means, but I sense that logic and reason are not your strong suits.
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No, I am suggesting that Yamaha’s poor performance has nothing to do with not having Lorenzo around.
The guy has been a cancer for everyone around him in the 250s, he was the same at Yamaha and it only took him a year to do a triple whammy at Ducati.
You can tell that by the way Dovi and Lorenzo hate each other with a passion and never celebrate the others good results. Yamaha lose Lorenzo and suddenly they have their worst results since he joined the team, Ducati gain Lorenzo and they have their best season since Stoner made their bike look rideable. Must just be a strange coincidence I guess.

Vinales says he flat out doesn't want the new 2017 chassis change because it's worse, Rossi demands the chassis change and both of their results dramatically suffer. Coincidence or just another case of Rossi being wrong?

Stoner says the Ducati is unrideable and the engineers aren't giving him what he wants. Rossi says he will fix the bike, gets ever demand he wants including changing their entire design strategy with the bike and giving him a twin bar frame and they don't win again for 6 seasons until a track they could've designed themselves is put on the calendar. Another coincidence?
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