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October 28th, 2017, 11:51 AM   #31
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Jorge has too much integrity. He will race his own race.
Too much integrity to let MM go by or to help Dovi?
JLo in my view should do all he can to make MM work for the title....including making himself as wide as possible at every turn.

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The article is 9 days old....9 days ago Dovi was 11 points behind MM....now Dovi needs the help and all the points and wins he can get....

And didn't Ducati give a team order to Redding to let Dovi by in the last race?

And Pedrosa is doing his job....he is pole....his next task is make sure that is MM can't win then he does....
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Scenarios for how MM can become world champion at Sepang:
  • If Dovizioso wins the race, then Marquez needs to finish second to become world champion.
    If Dovizioso finishes second, then Marquez needs to finish fourth or better to become world champion.
    If Dovizioso finishes third, then Marquez needs to finish eighth or better to become world champion.
    If Dovizioso finishes fourth, then Marquez needs to finish 11th or better to become world champion.
    If Dovizioso finishes fifth to seventh, then Marquez needs to finish no more than eight places further back to become world champion.
    If Dovizioso finishes lower than seventh, then Marquez will be the 2017 world champion.

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October 28th, 2017, 02:12 PM   #33
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To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

Fk that. An MM win this weekend and wrap up the championship would be more exciting
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Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

But, but, Uccio's rule 2015.3 subsection 1 'when a rider is unable to win the title they are not to involve themselves in competition with or against any rider who still remains in the championship'

Subsection internet101 also states 'any rider not in contention should move over and allow a 2 metre minimum gap between themselves and the rider still in contention as they pass'



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Hodgson hopes that's what happens. He's also saying that because Marquez hasn't crashed in a race for a while he due for a crash in sepang. Again it's just another hope. He such a yellow fanboy he prays with all his might that Marquez won't equal his idols accomplishments. Marquez isn't stupid, nor is his team they know how vindictive Rossi is they've probably talked about and planned for something like this. Honda and team Marquez have probably gone to RD with their worries as well.
Jack was correct about Hodgson, but then, many have known it for a while
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Rossi will be looking to get away with leaders to fight for a win

....the one that has or should mess with MM is JLo....after all JLo did say he would help Dovi during the last 2 races of the season....so by holding MM up, or passing him at any chance he can is his job for Ducati and will help Dovi.....

Unless of course JLo owes MM, and just lets him go by unopposed to be up with Dovi and the leaders....

What will JLo do I wonder?
The winged Ducati will create so much turbulence when JLo blasts past MM it will literally blow his leathers off.

Honestly Migs this is about all your post deserves in reponse. But before you go let’s just take another look at PI 17. Wow that was vintage Rossi eh mate, shit if only he had of rode like that in 15 I’m sure he woulda coulda shoulda been the 10 times champ. Alas........
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Seems pretty natural to want your countryman to win, there was no denial of it in 2015 was there?
To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

If you want a sport where what is most popular with fans determines the result I believe WWE wrestling continues.

As for 2015, the recent PI race just illustrated what I for one have always contended ie the tactics employed at PI 2015 are the only tactics which have seen MM finish, let alone win the PI race in the premier class. And as Birdman just said, what Rossi really required in 2015 was to himself ride in that race as he did in last week's race.

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Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...
I have a great idea based on this ....

We have real motogp .......

And we have motogp games .......

What about the total interactive experience whereby, in a situation like "Hodgsons Dream" the watcher can use a playstation controller to activate a big boot that comes down and bops rossi one ......?



Naaaa ... I wouldnt make it past the start of warmup
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Qual was interesting in that we could clearly see the contrast in styles between Dovi and Marquez. Honestly, Dovi’s style reminds me of Eddie Lawson. No fuss, nothing outrageous and yet that lap he pulled he is riding over the limit, just like Eddie he makes it look easy, but if you were to ask Lorenzo it’s anything but. Dovi has no margin for error. Marquez is obviously a very entertaining rider to watch. Unlike Dovi who masterfully sits just over the limit of the mere mortals, Marquez just smashes his way past it and deals with the consequences in a totally natural intuitive fashion. This is how he was born to ride. To be sure no one else I’ve ever seen rides like this. Most riders loose confidence from near miss and crashes, Marquez actually enjoys it.

I doubt he would enjoy it quite so much if he were on a Ducati. Crashing when he is on the pace is one thing, but imo he would find to his dismay he would be crashing the Duc 0.5 seconds off the pace wondering why? At that point he would realise this is nothing like any Japanese machine, it speaks Italian and it says don’t try telling me what to do or else I’ll spit you off. I’m tend to think Marquez has the talent to figure it out eventually, but it wouldn’t be done in 80 seconds as some people seam to think more like half a season.

As for Dovi, wow he is riding beautifully if I think back there was only one mistake I can remember from him all season and that was at PI. It was almost a flawless, Lawson like championship.
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So just to make sure I have it down.

2015, Marquez allegedly helping Lorenzo was bad and he should've been banned. Despite no evidence at all supporting the accusation.

2017, all riders who are Italian or on an italian bike should help Dovi to make sure Marquez doesn't win the championship.
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Seems pretty natural to want your countryman to win, there was no denial of it in 2015 was there?
To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

There was plenty of denial in 2015. Maybe you just weren't paying attention.

No the fans yellow fans like yourself want a Marquez DNF because you know that it's the only way that Marquez has a chance at losing the championship. Ya know what sets up an exciting race in Valencia? Marquez sealing the championship so he has nothing to lose and we hopefully watch some exciting battles at the front.
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