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October 5th, 2017, 07:03 AM   #271
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PI 13 was such a fantastic race. Peak JL.
It is if you like NASCAR/F1 style forced pit stop garbage...
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What is the argument? That he didn't practice it or it wasn't payback for the Stoner pass, which Stoner and HRC thought was illegal. Marc works for HRC. I am not sure they were as chummy as you believe. This is the site that thinks Rossi is a big phony, but on this occasion he wasn't? Yeah, okay.

Mate - It couldn't be payback for any transgression on Rossi's part as none had as yet occurred. To suggest MM was engaged in retribution for the Stoner event to impress HRC is also patently absurd. Stoner was riding for Ducati at the time.

It was clear as day that MM who'd repeated the move several times in practice was putting Rossi on notice that there was a new goat in town. Whatever MM's motivation was, either way, would in no way reflect on Rossi whatsoever. So the whole thing of whether people do or don't like him is a red herring argument.
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Mate - It couldn't be payback for any transgression on Rossi's part as none had as yet occurred. To suggest MM was engaged in retribution for the Stoner event to impress HRC is also patently absurd. Stoner was riding for Ducati at the time.

It was clear as day that MM who'd repeated the move several times in practice was putting Rossi on notice that there was a new goat in town. Whatever MM's motivation was, either way, would in no way reflect on Rossi whatsoever. So the whole thing of whether people do or don't like him is a red herring argument.
Perhaps the rules changed after LS 08, but according to how they ruled on the MM incident Rossi illegally maintained position in 2008.
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October 5th, 2017, 05:44 PM   #274
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Perhaps the rules changed after LS 08, but according to how they ruled on the MM incident Rossi illegally maintained position in 2008.
Good point, considering MM's corkscrew move was demonstrably premeditated.
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Good point, considering MM's corkscrew move was demonstrably premeditated.
I believe they ruled that both riders left the track and that Rossi had forced MM off the track, Assen 2015 in reverse, the implication being for me anyway that you are not allowed to maintain position per se by going off track.

They are hoist on their own petard to an extent because of previous rulings. I think the placing MM gained by his last corner move on Lorenzo at Jerez 2013 should not have stood, but they had let Rossi’s similar 2005 move go.
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I believe they ruled that both riders left the track and that Rossi had forced MM off the track, Assen 2015 in reverse, the implication being for me anyway that you are not allowed to maintain position per se by going off track.

They are hoist on their own petard to an extent because of previous rulings. I think the placing MM gained by his last corner move on Lorenzo at Jerez 2013 should not have stood, but they had let Rossiís similar 2005 move go.
The most recent blatant off track cheat was rossi on Zarco earlier this year ..... that one was a total dorna farce.
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I believe they ruled that both riders left the track and that Rossi had forced MM off the track, Assen 2015 in reverse, the implication being for me anyway that you are not allowed to maintain position per se by going off track.

They are hoist on their own petard to an extent because of previous rulings. I think the placing MM gained by his last corner move on Lorenzo at Jerez 2013 should not have stood, but they had let Rossiís similar 2005 move go.
Jerez 05 was a joke.
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Stoner rode for Ducati at the time of the pass...
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No argument, just wrong choice of words. It was more one upmanship than payback.
Yes. This is a good point, too. And I am not always at my publisher's best after a couple of cocktails. Thanks for the reminder.

So maybe Marc did it just to show the old man who the new GOAT is. Can I get an Amen? Thanks.

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And I am not always at my publisher's best after a couple of cocktails.
Haha. Yes, I always think I'm at my best posting level after a few ..... until the morning.
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Yes. That is a good point.

Yes. This is a good point, too. And I am not always at my publisher's best after a couple of cocktails. Thanks for the reminder.

So maybe Marc did it just to show the old man who the new GOAT is. Can I get an Amen? Thanks.
That's exactly what he was doing, Amen.🐐
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