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August 28th, 2017, 06:56 AM   #21
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They were going to put him on a satellite team with a supposedly full factory bike to accommodate Stoner. He enforced his contract to ride on the full factory team, which ran bikes for 3 riders in 2011, Stoner, Pedrosa and Dovi. Some were of the opinion he only got a real full spec factory bike when Pedrosa was injured.
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So they essentially tried to drop him into LCR's (or another satellite) team with a full factory bike instead of giving him the Repsol garage/colors? Seems like they would have spent a little more time going over details like that before putting pen to paper
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Dovi is the greatest rider after Stoner.

Ok hes riding the Stoner designed, developed and built Duc.

And he is receiving personal tutillage from Stoner .....

But hes doing pretty good.

Who knows, maybe some day he will be a contender.

How many races battling directly with the best he has to won to be a contender?

You must be kidding for sure.

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Thanks, I was unaware!
So they essentially tried to drop him into LCR's (or another satellite) team with a full factory bike instead of giving him the Repsol garage/colors? Seems like they would have spent a little more time going over details like that before putting pen to paper
During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.
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During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.
My thought as well in regard to Dovi vs Pedrosa; he certainly seems to be more durable for a start. In fact he was possibly a better bet for them than Stoner who retired after only 2 years, although he appears to be a late bloomer and might not have been ready to win a title back then and they got Marquez as soon as Stoner retired.
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During his last year riding for Honda, the bike he was on had the Repsol colors - but it was repeatedly said that his bike was not up to the same specs as those of Stoner and Pedrosa. He was always just short of competitive, but oddly, when Pedrosa was out injured, Dovi's bike was noticeably faster and his results stronger. He was contracted to get a full out factory bike and support equal to that of Pedrosa, but Honda elected to buy him out of his contract and he went to Yamaha for one year before going to Ducati. Looking at his results now, I'd speculate that Dovi would have far outstripped Dani for wins and results.
Very interesting, is it believed they gave him a lesser machine to protect Dani, or simply to save money by giving him older/inferior machinery?
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Very interesting, is it believed they gave him a lesser machine to protect Dani, or simply to save money by giving him older/inferior machinery?
Protect Dani. Repsol being a Spanish company are naturally more invested in a Spanish rider.
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As has been previously mentioned, the problem arose due to the arrival of Stoner. Originally Honda had planned a three bike ‘superteam’ as they had run in the late nineties (Doohan, Okada and Criville…four if you include Gibernau on the NSR500V). This was dependent upon Red Bull who would provide the sponsorship for Casey’s machine, however, when they failed to commit to the project it was announced that Dovi’s services were no longer required. Problem was, the presence of a performance clause stating that if he was top five in the standings at the end of July, he automatically secured a ride in Honda’s factory team next season. As I recall, his manager Simone Batistella invoked this and his astute selection of a legal team meant that Honda faced the prospect of protracted litigation if they failed to honour the contract. Honda were thus obligated to accommodate Dovizioso, HRC launched a sustained but unsuccessful attempt to secure fresh investment to run a three-pronged factory attack in 2011 and certainly tapped Gresini to accommodate the rider on factory machinery - already destined for Simoncelli whilst HRC wanted to retain Ayoama on the satellite ride. Dovi was typically dignified and after the event magnanimous as ever. As I recall, he was given a 2011 factory RCV but lacking the support and resources availed to Stoner and Pedrosa throughout the year – so yes, it was essentially tantamount to little more than a satellite ride.
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Since some Italians are trading in their yellow for red, I thought I'd post this here.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...rix-racer.html

(Some great quotes here. And the pics are worthy of MotoKitty's porn thread.)
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Since some Italians are trading in their yellow for red, I thought I'd post this here.

Tested: Cagiva V593 500cc Grand Prix Racer

(Some great quotes here. And the pics are worthy of MotoKitty's porn thread.)
Having the Ohlins gas reservoir parked so close to the expansion chambers seemed a bit dumb. The heat had to have negative effects on its performance, no?
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