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August 8th, 2017, 07:03 AM   #181
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Folger, Smith, P. Espargaro and Miller on the same lap as Marquez
So, are all these guys sneaky geniuses, too?

Next lap:
A. Espargaro, Abraham, Redding, Lowes, Iannone, Barbera,
What about these guys? They must be smarter than Vinales and Rossi, that is for sure. No?

MM explains in the post interview that he changed tires on the grid and planned to go hard for 4-5 laps and then come in to change tires, but it backfired because he was 19th in the second lap. He did not deny thinking the track would dry out. He just misjudged how fast it would happen.

Apparently people here believe you can change a motorcycle from a wet set up to a dry set up in one and a half minutes. I suggest that this whole forum should be the pit crew for who ever, because they are guaranteed a championship with the supernatural mechanical abilities of Motogpforum.com

Again, Pedrosa's bike and the Yamahas and MOST backup bikes were set up with slicks. So how the hell was Marquez being so tricky? He gambled and won. He could have lost, just as easily.

Other riders could have the same plan, maybe; I doubt it, and anyway they were slower. I think they improvised and just copied MM. What is sure is that only riders riding behind Marquez had a chance to copy him and enter the pits with him, not those riding in front. Which explains why he fell behind his main rivals in the second lap. I know he blamed the tire.... And yes, a soft rain tire is really soft, but can it be destroyed in only one lap on a still semi-wet track? I doubt it. Dovi and other riders said the same in an interview.

Then it is true that some of MM's main rivals (notably Rossi, Dovi), and/or their teams, were even dumb enough to wait until the 5th lap. Had Marc known, he wouldn't have worried so much...!

The time required to change a bike from wet to dry is precisely the point. Because we know the time it takes to change fork springs, rear shock preload (at the very least) and of course change and heat up slick tires, it is apparent that Marc's second bike was ready with dry setup from the very start, contrary to the common practice of keeping the two bikes equal at start time. Why? There is only one answer.

About the "gamble": starting the race on a soft rain tire, when the rain has stopped already, means gambling that it will rain cats and dogs in 2 minutes. Strange gamble indeed. Unless it was a gamble meant to be lost, of course.
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Yes, and I'm surprised people say Marc didn't let everyone go ahead so they couldn't see him pit. If Crotchlow thought of it I'm sure Marquez thought of it too.
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Other riders could have the same plan, maybe; I doubt it, and anyway they were slower. I think they improvised and just copied MM. What is sure is that only riders riding behind Marquez had a chance to copy him and enter the pits with him, not those riding in front. Which explains why he fell behind his main rivals in the second lap. I know he blamed the tire.... And yes, a soft rain tire is really soft, but can it be destroyed in only one lap on a still semi-wet track? I doubt it. Dovi and other riders said the same in an interview.

Then it is true that some of MM's main rivals (notably Rossi, Dovi), and/or their teams, were even dumb enough to wait until the 5th lap. Had Marc known, he wouldn't have worried so much...!

The time required to change a bike from wet to dry is precisely the point. Because we know the time it takes to change fork springs, rear shock preload (at the very least) and of course change and heat up slick tires, it is apparent that Marc's second bike was ready with dry setup from the very start, contrary to the common practice of keeping the two bikes equal at start time. Why? There is only one answer.

About the "gamble": starting the race on a soft rain tire, when the rain has stopped already, means gambling that it will rain cats and dogs in 2 minutes. Strange gamble indeed. Unless it was a gamble meant to be lost, of course.
As you said earlier, he is always at an advantage in changing conditions, because he can ride on slicks earlier than anyone else/get them up to operating temperature so quickly.

Flag to flag races seem to be commonplace the last few seasons.
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Don't you folk drink your beer warm
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Only if we leave it out in the sun too long which is a moot point anyway coz we don't get much of that.
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Only if we leave it out in the sun too long which is a moot point anyway coz we don't get much of that.
On a serious note....








And there in lay why our beer tastes shit.

We don't give a shit about taste as we are to busy enjoying ourselves in the sun to care, plus of course it gets so hot at times we will drink anything, thus again taste is not important.
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