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July 29th, 2017, 05:09 PM   #1
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Schwantz is calling out Ianonne

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This is the 3rd or 4th statement in the past few months where Kevin basically tells the press that Ianonne needs to change just about everything about his life on and off the track. This is quickly becoming a slash and burn agenda by Schwantz to remove him from the seat at Suzuki

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Oxley chiming in
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It is getting ugly fast at Suzuki and Ianonne seems to be center of attention
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Have seen this type of commentary elsewhere as well Pov and as you suggest, all of it centres on Ianonne as the focal point ................. will see if I can find the other articles but in essence they are the same (so likely all just paraphrasing the other).
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Kevin Schwantz is out of line and Hack Oxley is a fucking hack never worth reading.

If Schwantz should whine about anything it should be to point out Suzuki have ALWAYS participated in GP half-assed. Neither Schwantz nor Hack go into any detail about how detrimental the Michelin has become (despite Hack pointing out how the Suzuki ran well in preseason and the first couple of races, any more obvious and the answer would burn a hole in this already useless "articles". Hack hasnt stopped to consider it mirrors Viņalez and the obvious ramifications. ) I remember both of these guys saying very critical shit about Stoner while at Ducati (which proved them spectacularly wrong); unsurprisingly, were critical of Ducati when their buddy Rossi cruised around.

The Manipulatichelin has screwed up the Suzuki. When the Bridgestone was Rossied, Suzuki couldn't cope with the change and ended up taking a hiatus from the sport in 2011. They've received special concessions too, a "factory" entry enjoying satellite and open class Mulligans. Look what the tire changes has done to Honda, forcing one of the greatest talents of our generation to ride around with his ball sac in his throat, tentatively because the front tire might go Isis. But unlike Honda, Suzuki don't participate with the commitment to throw an army of engineering and resources to mitigate the metamorossiphosis that is the Michelin.

Has Krops written a scathing piece on Iannone yet or is he just satisfied to retread Hack's worthless takes? I hope not, he might have to ban himself from his own site. Teleporters of this ilk tend to gang up on convenient riders, though I'm still waiting for these guys to take Rossi to task for his entourage that developed the most damaging conspiracy ever to the sport. I like how Schwantz glibly admitted not understanding what was spoken by Iannone to his techs but making conclusions about it. Ironically, Schwantz would get banned from Krops site if he disparaged a rider on his mere impression.

That Suzuki is shit. It's on par with KTM and Aprilia, nobody is taking their riders to task. Iannone ran excellent race pace at Qatar and Argentina. (Argentina, the scene of the attempted tire coup thwarted by the safety commission, then what happened?) I like how Hack wrote a piece supporting his unfettered admiration for Cuntslow's gratuitous crashing but here seems to make the point Iannone hasn't crashed enough to make some conclusion about Iannone's commitment. Maybe Iannone has looked over at Rind and thought, wait, I'm no good if I'm injured. Astonishingly the "logic" here is, hey look, my teammate got injury now I'm gonna phone it in. Not, hey look, my teammate got injured by this piece of shit Suzuki and their half hearted reaction to the Manipulatichelin.

Suzuki had the hottest commodity in Viņalez signed up. They even had an option to keep him another year. What did Suzuki do? This exemplifies the modus operandi of Suzuki's participation in MotoGP. Mr. Suzuki's brand ambassador should point out the message the manufacturer transmitted by letting Viņalez go so readily. Suzuki had all the leverage to keep Viņalez, so ask yourself, why would they let him go? It speaks about Suzuki racing. Suzuki are not serious about contending in GP. When was the last time this large Japanese manufacturer ran a satellite team? They field 2 bikes where tiny Ducati field 3x as many. Has Hack or Schwantz pointed out Suzuki has won practically dick in 40 years? Why did Suzuki let Ben Spies go? Ben ran respectable on wildcards then Mother Mary saw how Suzuki were dicking around her son and they left to win a world championship as a rookie on a Yamaha. Why should Suzuki get a pass? They've been shit for ever. They practically murdered John Hopkins. Suzuki have had plenty of top tier talent, rider's talent and careers destroyed by a manufacturer participating in mediocrity. Most notably Randy Mamola, but they've had riders like Russell and Chandler, Machenzie and Beattie, Barros, etc. Riders for Suzuki are the frogs willing to give the scorpion a ride across the lake, Suzuki's lack of commitment stings them to death. Then we read hacks talking shit about the frog. Suzuki's pattern of racing mediocrity is consistently shit.

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Kevin Schwantz is out of line and Hack Oxley is a fucking hack never worth reading.

If Schwantz should whine about anything it should be to point out Suzuki have ALWAYS participated in GP half-assed. Neither Schwantz nor Hack go into any detail about how detrimental the Michelin has become (despite Hack pointing out how the Suzuki ran well in preseason and the first couple of races, any more obvious and the answer would burn a hole in this already useless "articles". Hack hasnt stopped to consider it mirrors Viņalez and the obvious ramifications. ) I remember both of these guys saying very critical shit about Stoner while at Ducati (which proved them spectacularly wrong); unsurprisingly, were critical of Ducati when their buddy Rossi cruised around.

The Manipulatichelin has screwed up the Suzuki. When the Bridgestone was Rossied, Suzuki couldn't cope with the change and ended up taking a hiatus from the sport in 2011. They've received special concessions too, a "factory" entry enjoying satellite and open class Mulligans. Look what the tire changes has done to Honda, forcing one of the greatest talents of our generation to ride around with his ball sac in his throat, tentatively because the front tire might go Isis. But unlike Honda, Suzuki don't participate with the commitment to throw an army of engineering and resources to mitigate the metamorossiphosis that is the Michelin.

Has Krops written a scathing piece on Iannone yet or is he just satisfied to retread Hack's worthless takes? I hope not, he might have to ban himself from his own site. Teleporters of this ilk tend to gang up on convenient riders, though I'm still waiting for these guys to take Rossi to task for his entourage that developed the most damaging conspiracy ever to the sport. I like how Schwantz glibly admitted not understanding what was spoken by Iannone to his techs but making conclusions about it. Ironically, Schwantz would get banned from Krops site if he disparaged a rider on his mere impression.

That Suzuki is shit. It's on par with KTM and Aprilia, nobody is taking their riders to task. Iannone ran excellent race pace at Qatar and Argentina. (Argentina, the scene of the attempted tire coup thwarted by the safety commission, then what happened?) I like how Hack wrote a piece supporting his unfettered admiration for Cuntslow's gratuitous crashing but here seems to make the point Iannone hasn't crashed enough to make some conclusion about Iannone's commitment. Maybe Iannone has looked over at Rind and thought, wait, I'm no good if I'm injured. Astonishingly the "logic" here is, hey look, my teammate got injury now I'm gonna phone it in. Not, hey look, my teammate got injured by this piece of shit Suzuki and their half hearted reaction to the Manipulatichelin.

Suzuki had the hottest commodity in Viņalez signed up. They even had an option to keep him another year. What did Suzuki do? This exemplifies the modus operandi of Suzuki's participation in MotoGP. Mr. Suzuki's brand ambassador should point out the message the manufacturer transmitted by letting Viņalez go so readily. Suzuki had all the leverage to keep Viņalez, so ask yourself, why would they let him go? It speaks about Suzuki racing. Suzuki are not serious about contending in GP. When was the last time this large Japanese manufacturer ran a satellite team? They field 2 bikes where tiny Ducati field 3x as many. Has Hack or Schwantz pointed out Suzuki has won practically dick in 40 years? Why did Suzuki let Ben Spies go? Ben ran respectable on wildcards then Mother Mary saw how Suzuki were dicking around her son and they left to win a world championship as a rookie on a Yamaha. Why should Suzuki get a pass? They've been shit for ever. They practically murdered John Hopkins. Suzuki have had plenty of top tier talent, rider's talent and careers destroyed by a manufacturer participating in mediocrity. Most notably Randy Mamola, but they've had riders like Russell and Chandler, Machenzie and Beattie, Barros, etc. Riders for Suzuki are the frogs willing to give the scorpion a ride across the lake, Suzuki's lack of commitment stings them to death. Then we read hacks talking shit about the frog. Suzuki's pattern of racing mediocrity is consistently shit.
How much is Michelin incompetence, and in particular not being able to make a front tyre of sufficient quality in general is hard to know, but if anyone doubted the influence of tyres the change in Vinales' fortunes over the course of this year is rather good evidence.

I think it would have been pretty hard to keep Vinales if he didn't want to be there with the offer of the Yamaha factory ride in prospect, but I guess others have had to wait in the past.

I fear Iannone is on exactly the wrong bike for him.

All this makes you appreciate KRJR's achievement more.
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Kevin Schwantz is out of line and Hack Oxley is a fucking hack never worth reading.

If Schwantz should whine about anything it should be to point out Suzuki have ALWAYS participated in GP half-assed. Neither Schwantz nor Hack go into any detail about how detrimental the Michelin has become (despite Hack pointing out how the Suzuki ran well in preseason and the first couple of races, any more obvious and the answer would burn a hole in this already useless "articles". Hack hasnt stopped to consider it mirrors Viņalez and the obvious ramifications. ) I remember both of these guys saying very critical shit about Stoner while at Ducati (which proved them spectacularly wrong); unsurprisingly, were critical of Ducati when their buddy Rossi cruised around.

The Manipulatichelin has screwed up the Suzuki. When the Bridgestone was Rossied, Suzuki couldn't cope with the change and ended up taking a hiatus from the sport in 2011. They've received special concessions too, a "factory" entry enjoying satellite and open class Mulligans. Look what the tire changes has done to Honda, forcing one of the greatest talents of our generation to ride around with his ball sac in his throat, tentatively because the front tire might go Isis. But unlike Honda, Suzuki don't participate with the commitment to throw an army of engineering and resources to mitigate the metamorossiphosis that is the Michelin.

Has Krops written a scathing piece on Iannone yet or is he just satisfied to retread Hack's worthless takes? I hope not, he might have to ban himself from his own site. Teleporters of this ilk tend to gang up on convenient riders, though I'm still waiting for these guys to take Rossi to task for his entourage that developed the most damaging conspiracy ever to the sport. I like how Schwantz glibly admitted not understanding what was spoken by Iannone to his techs but making conclusions about it. Ironically, Schwantz would get banned from Krops site if he disparaged a rider on his mere impression.

That Suzuki is shit. It's on par with KTM and Aprilia, nobody is taking their riders to task. Iannone ran excellent race pace at Qatar and Argentina. (Argentina, the scene of the attempted tire coup thwarted by the safety commission, then what happened?) I like how Hack wrote a piece supporting his unfettered admiration for Cuntslow's gratuitous crashing but here seems to make the point Iannone hasn't crashed enough to make some conclusion about Iannone's commitment. Maybe Iannone has looked over at Rind and thought, wait, I'm no good if I'm injured. Astonishingly the "logic" here is, hey look, my teammate got injury now I'm gonna phone it in. Not, hey look, my teammate got injured by this piece of shit Suzuki and their half hearted reaction to the Manipulatichelin.

Suzuki had the hottest commodity in Viņalez signed up. They even had an option to keep him another year. What did Suzuki do? This exemplifies the modus operandi of Suzuki's participation in MotoGP. Mr. Suzuki's brand ambassador should point out the message the manufacturer transmitted by letting Viņalez go so readily. Suzuki had all the leverage to keep Viņalez, so ask yourself, why would they let him go? It speaks about Suzuki racing. Suzuki are not serious about contending in GP. When was the last time this large Japanese manufacturer ran a satellite team? They field 2 bikes where tiny Ducati field 3x as many. Has Hack or Schwantz pointed out Suzuki has won practically dick in 40 years? Why did Suzuki let Ben Spies go? Ben ran respectable on wildcards then Mother Mary saw how Suzuki were dicking around her son and they left to win a world championship as a rookie on a Yamaha. Why should Suzuki get a pass? They've been shit for ever. They practically murdered John Hopkins. Suzuki have had plenty of top tier talent, rider's talent and careers destroyed by a manufacturer participating in mediocrity. Most notably Randy Mamola, but they've had riders like Russell and Chandler, Machenzie and Beattie, Barros, etc. Riders for Suzuki are the frogs willing to give the scorpion a ride across the lake, Suzuki's lack of commitment stings them to death. Then we read hacks talking shit about the frog. Suzuki's pattern of racing mediocrity is consistently shit.
guess the short bus stopped running for the summer!

now you have to make believe with imaginary conspiracy theories!!!

you remind me exactly of a junkie, paranoid delusions and an inability to accept reality. 23,000 posts an 22,950 of them are all the same thing. rossi rossi rossi tires tires tires dorna dorna dorna CONSPIRACY IM LIT AS FUCK. no you just are a crackhead suffering from withdrawal.

iannone is a crasher, nothing more to it than that. but u need to keep blaming a nonexistent tire conspiracy and continue acting like a lunatic.

vinales left because he wanted to leave and suzuki new keeping him would have pissed him off. stop with your quack shit and log out and dont ever come back junkie
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guess the short bus stopped running for the summer!

now you have to make believe with imaginary conspiracy theories!!!

you remind me exactly of a junkie, paranoid delusions and an inability to accept reality. 23,000 posts an 22,950 of them are all the same thing. rossi rossi rossi tires tires tires dorna dorna dorna CONSPIRACY IM LIT AS FUCK. no you just are a crackhead suffering from withdrawal.

iannone is a crasher, nothing more to it than that. but u need to keep blaming a nonexistent tire conspiracy and continue acting like a lunatic.

vinales left because he wanted to leave and suzuki new keeping him would have pissed him off. stop with your quack shit and log out and dont ever come back junkie
This post is just silly B.S. There is no way Jumkie has made 50 posts not related to Rossi, tires, or dorna.
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Let's not forget that no matter how little effort Suzuki puts in to their program, they still don't feel Schwantz is qualified enough to be a team manager.
His job is to pat young riders on the back and write a few negative opinion pieces a year.
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How much is Michelin incompetence, and in particular not being able to make a front tyre of sufficient quality in general is hard to know, but if anyone doubted the influence of tyres the change in Vinales' fortunes over the course of this year is rather good evidence.

I think it would have been pretty hard to keep Vinales if he didn't want to be there with the offer of the Yamaha factory ride in prospect, but I guess others have had to wait in the past.

I fear Iannone is on exactly the wrong bike for him.

All this makes you appreciate KRJR's achievement more.
With nobody other than the official riders ridding any of the MotoGP bikes it hard to tell their characteristics but from comments made in interviews the Ducati and Honda sound the most physical bikes to ride, they reward the point and shoot aggressive riding styles. The Yamaha (and Suzuki which is said to be the most similar with its inline 4) are said to be smooth, precise and offer nigh corner speed and grip.

No doubt tyres play a huge part in racing, but going off the riders comments about their bikes it seems Iannone and Lotnrzo are both riding bikes that are diametrically opposed in characteristics from what they are used to. It was foolish of Suzuki to loose both of their riders and upset the bikes development path only 2 seasons in to their MotoGP comeback.
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