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July 18th, 2017, 05:21 AM   #11
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Keshav - you posted this at 2.24am East Coast Time. Have you been on the Red Bull?
LOL - no the PS site does not accurately reflect the time a post was made. It was in fact fact posted at 10:11 p.m..
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The problem with assuming that people will act responsibly when knowing the risk involved,........

People under the age of 30 are generally pretty stupid about self-preservation, and don't much think about whether anything is dangerous to consume, if it is smartly packaged and on the shelf at the 7-11.
I assume you supported that communist Bloomberg's sugary drink ban?

I can definitely see energy drink sponsorship getting banned, just like smokes. Do not worry, though. Dope is becoming legal everywhere and Rizla and growers will be all over the vehicles for a couple of years, until someone figures out that maybe smoking dope and racing isn't really a good match.
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I assume you supported that communist Bloomberg's sugary drink ban?

I can definitely see energy drink sponsorship getting banned, just like smokes. Do not worry, though. Dope is becoming legal everywhere and Rizla and growers will be all over the vehicles for a couple of years, until someone figures out that maybe smoking dope and racing isn't really a good match.
Firstly - Bloomberg (who I did not vote for) is deeply conservative. Secondly - it was not a ban. It was a tax. Same as there is on alcohol, tobacco and many other less harmful substances. The money from the tax was for educating the public on the dangers of obesity and diabetes which are especially prominent in our black and Latino communities. Two Puerto Ricans who were my upstairs neighbors on E. 4th Street, two friends I totally adored, had their lives ruined by that crap. Mario's diabetes cost him his leg and a year later, he died. His wife Sandy was so obese, that eventually she only left the house about once a month, on a stretcher into an ambulance. I see little kids aged 12 years, who are already 35 lbs overweight and I cringe. Its fucking really sad shit. If a few pennies tax creates a program of awareness that prevents this, I'm all for it. This is not some "nanny state" Big Brother overreach. Bloomberg since leaving office has spent 18 Million dollars of his own money to promote healthy eating habits.

Raising money to promote health awareness is neither a dictatorial, or "communist" trait. Trying to promote awareness of healthier food alternatives can only be a good thing. Removing artery clogging trans-fats from restaurants is not a bad thing. NY still has some of the best restaurants in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-success-last

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-as-much-as-50

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Firstly - Bloomberg (who I did not vote for) is deeply conservative. Secondly - it was not a ban. It was a tax. ....
First: He is not conservative or he wouldn't propose the government controlling how much people drank or ate. He would be a TRUE LIBERAL and allow people to make their own choices. This is how we have swapped politics in the United States. "Conservatives" want more liberties, "Liberals" want fewer liberties. It is bizarre. But there ya' go.

Second: It was a BAN on large sugar drinks, as far as I know. Not a tax. And it was not the only communist crap Bloomberg proposed as Mayor. Whack-job or big phony. Your choice.

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First: He is not conservative or he wouldn't propose the government controlling how much people drank or ate. He would be a TRUE LIBERAL and allow people to make their own choices. This is how we have swapped politics in the United States. "Conservatives" want more liberties, "Liberals" want fewer liberties. It is bizarre. But there ya' go.

Second: It was a BAN on large sugar drinks, as far as I know. Not a tax. And it was not the only communist crap Bloomberg proposed as Mayor. Whack-job or big phony. Your choice.

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I lived in NYC for 50 years and was a resident at the time of the controversy. They were trying originally to ban 32 oz soft drinks which nobody fucking needs - that were adversely affecting people's health. It worked out in the end as a tax. I'm as liberal as they get. But I understand that some things do need to be legislated for the well being of people who don't always act in their own best interests. If you ever stood next to a 12 yr old boy who weighs in at 150 Lbs at 4 foot 10 with one of those 32 oz Cokes in his hand and pondered what his future would be like with that kind of health issue at the get go, you'd understand that there's more at stake than some adult's "liberty" to drink a big soda. People made the same arguments about the ban on smoking in public spaces, but the rate of asthma deaths in big cities have dropped dramatically across the country. A small sacrifice for the greater good.


I support the freedom to ride a motorcycle with no helmet, as long as the rider is willing to sign a agreement that in the event he falls and ends up brain dead, that tax payers won't have to foot his hospital bill.

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In these discussions I am always reminded of Alain Prost's quip when asked to respond to the issue of tobacco advertising in motorsport:

"I don't think my sponsorship deals cause people to start smoking, but maybe switch."

Something like that.

All drugs should be legal. Period.

It's up to every individual to decide, whether they have good judgement or not is irrelevant.

It's a dangerous world to live in, always has been.
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