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May 22nd, 2017, 07:43 AM   #91
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So neither of you will admit Dani came into that corner way to hot and had to plough into Crutchlow.

BTW look at the video of Simoncelli and Pedrosa, Simoncelli was already past him at the apex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2edeQXpLo78

Oh and btw it wasn't Museum it was S Chemin Aux Boeufs, Museum is the one afte L'Chappelle
Actually Dani did not come into the corner too hot.

Crutchlow lost a bit of speed in the middle of the corner and it allowed Pedrosa to suddenly close up quickly. If you look at how Dani took the corner, he took it perfectly and was carrying way more speed through it. You are ignoring that Dovi also was coming just as fast through the corner. Cal was running a different line, and Dani did not expect him to suddenly drift back to the right. He went for the opening, nothing more to it.

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ďAs I've said, that's racing. I have no hard feelings at all, and to be honest he probably couldn't see me because he was hanging off the bike on the inside. And I did run wide. I was wide, my corner speed was slow and I was wide because of the front tyre."
Cal admits he ran wide. You're making much ado about nothing.
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For those who wish to hear what Freddie Spencer's thoughts on the French GP are, there was a video interview posted on Crash...

MotoGP News - MotoGP France: Freddie Spencer: Marquez may continue to struggle
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So neither of you will admit Dani came into that corner way to hot and had to plough into Crutchlow.

BTW look at the video of Simoncelli and Pedrosa, Simoncelli was already past him at the apex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2edeQXpLo78

Oh and btw it wasn't Museum it was S Chemin Aux Boeufs, Museum is the one afte L'Chappelle
Apologies - that was from memory not google as so many on here rely on.

Pedrosa saw the gap and accelerated for it - that is, the correct line and apex. Simoncelli was not 'past' Pedrosa at the apex - culminating in the fact that he took his front end away when he cut in.
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I just took a couple of screen caps from the GP onboard feed from Dovi's Ducati. You can see Pedrosa was on a tight line, and Crutchlow was way off and then decided to close up at the last moment to try and make a late apex corner exit.



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For those who wish to hear what Freddie Spencer's thoughts on the French GP are, there was a video interview posted on Crash...

MotoGP News - MotoGP France: Freddie Spencer: Marquez may continue to struggle
Geez, even Freddie is looking older. Good interview, really. His champion insight is appreciated.
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I hope this young man becomes the World Champion this year.




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(Picture taken on victory lap.)
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Well I sat out last year in protest. I refused to give dorna money. I relented after last year, what with the new blood in the game and Lorenzo on the Ducati. I just watched the race yesterday evening and didn't go on any forum before I saw it. Cracking race!

Fitting tribute to Nicky. For once vr rode a clean race, perhaps in deference to Nick? I was ready to congratulate him if he won, even as I will admit to not liking him any more than previously. I've come to terms with Lorenzo on the new bike, we will just wait and see the results. He already invented one new way to ride a GP bike, perhaps he can do it again.

Zarco and Vinales, great performance. They validate the whole show. I thought Pedrosa's move was questionable, but I get JPS's argument that crutch changed his line. Hey, if he didn't have a problem, neither should I.

Great to see all the new young guns. The look on vr's face when he looked into the camera post get off was pure "I'm too old for this shit."

On a related note, I went to Hangtown here in California to watch the first outdoor national motocross race. New talent is coming in to ably replace the guys who are leaving. Life goes on in that big circle. Bring on the rest of the season!
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Actually Dani did not come into the corner too hot.

Crutchlow lost a bit of speed in the middle of the corner and it allowed Pedrosa to suddenly close up quickly. If you look at how Dani took the corner, he took it perfectly and was carrying way more speed through it. You are ignoring that Dovi also was coming just as fast through the corner. Cal was running a different line, and Dani did not expect him to suddenly drift back to the right. He went for the opening, nothing more to it.

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Cal admits he ran wide. You're making much ado about nothing.
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I'll go back and head through the posts on here but wanted to comment 'pure' first. I have to say that I enjoyed the race. It was great to see Zarco giving it some. I really like the Tech 3 guys and hope it won't be too long before they get a proper win, they deserve it.

Props to Vinales. I was worried that if Rossi beat him on the last lap it would be the breaking of the man. A fear or unwillingness to fight Rossi would have highlighted to me that Rossi had won the mind war against Maverick and the championship was over but full credit to him, he smashed in an awesome last lap that I think would have got him the victory despite Rossi stacking it.

The media bias after the race though was (as ever) outrageous. If someone else had crashed in a battle with Rossi and Rossi won, they would have been given scant consideration but on this occasion it was like full blown mourning.

Dejected shots of Rossi, a teary eyed child shown in the crowd, Jarvis with his head in his hands (even though another factory Yamaha rider has won the race) and endless analysis of what went wrong. No real mention that Maverick took 0.3 of a second off the lap record in the last lap, no consideration of Mav's strength of character.

The worst part was seeing Toseland afterwards commenting that maybe it was something wrong with Rossi's front end or that he was affected by what was happening to Nicky Hayden. Suzi Perry then re-iterated the point that maybe Rossi's mind was on someone else.

Give me a fuckin break. Rossi concerned about anyone else than himself, what an absolute joke and what a blatant example of this ridiculous favouritism.

Finally, full props to Pedrosa. Whilst I think he is a bit of journeyman his comment about his thought to Nicky in parc ferme seem genuine and sincere. Good on you Dani.
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Geez, even Freddie is looking older. Good interview, really. His champion insight is appreciated.
Yeah, nice interview, he is older he's 55.
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