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May 6th, 2017, 10:25 AM   #81
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Indeed they do. What do you feel their prospects are for successfully making this a less than certain Honda victory?
IMO, it's already a less than certain Honda victory. Yamaha does appear to be struggling, but it's a circuit that typically suits their bike and I don't think anyone will be shocked if they have a good race pace tomorrow.

I wouldn't mind a Pedrosa win, especially if he really takes the fight to Marquez.
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IMO, it's already a less than certain Honda victory. Yamaha does appear to be struggling, but it's a circuit that typically suits their bike and I don't think anyone will be shocked if they have a good race pace tomorrow.

I wouldn't mind a Pedrosa win, especially if he really takes the fight to Marquez.
Interesting thoughts...thanks for sharing them. Definitely do agree that the Yamaha is pretty well suited to a place like Jerez which has made the weekend so far more strange to me since I was predicting a Yamaha win. But the race may flip everything around. Hopefully it will be exciting for the 3000th grand prix motorcycle race.
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I wonder if Dani will have the race pace or not. Don't mind him winning tomorrow, but it would be nice to see him have a good battle for the lead. Feels like awhile since we've seen that out of him.
Misano last year was a great ride but not much of a battle, the best fight I've seen him in was Aragon 2015 v Rossi.
I really hope this version of the RCV works for the dude, we're in for a superb season if it does.
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I reckon Dani is going to remind Marc he isn't just a CE11 type teammate, and hopefully a win this early in the season will boost his confidence.
The Yamaha's seem to be on the back foot here but Sunday may be a different story depending on what they work on tonight.
I think Lorenzo will start well but fade from the middle of the race.
Yeah - I hope so. Dani's talented. It's so easy to write him off as "the bridesmaid" etc. He does a lot given his size and weight issue.
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A lot of active MotoGP riders aren't echoing Stoner's opinion. It's foolish to simply accept whatever Stoner says as fact without seeking other sources to verify his claims.
Link please.
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Link please.
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Relevant link please. I want to be entertained.
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Relevant link please. I want to be entertained.
Don't be too hard on the fellah. After all, who knew actually backing up statements with hard facts would be so complicated?
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Relevant link please. I want to be entertained.
What exactly do you want a link for? Have you heard any active GP riders claiming the front and rear tire profiles don't match? You want a link for why it's foolish to accept what Stoner says as fact without any supporting evidence?
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No, Stoner's opinion has not been largely validated.
The point was, that by September 2016 the feedback that he had provided immediately after the Sepang test was vindicated.

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Casey Stoner does not know more about designing race tires than Michelin engineers.
No, but he knows more about riding them.

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The riders shouldn't have thought they could ride Michelins exactly the same way as Bridgestones.
As far as I am aware, they didn't.

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You should always be wary of the opinion from anyone.
Absolutely agree. As demonstrated by your Viñales in Márquez's head theory. But we are talking about feedback from one of the most talented motorcycle racers in the history of the sport, you should also wary of not heeding it - and that's the point. As Michael said, I would be more inclined to afford credence to a two times world champion whilst being wary of the opinion of an anonymous contributor to an internet forum posting somewhere in Texas.

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A lot of active MotoGP riders aren't echoing Stoner's opinion.
Who?

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It's foolish to simply accept whatever Stoner says as fact without seeking other sources to verify his claims.
We are discussing his feedback and observations following the Sepang test in 2016 backed by telemetry. Odd then that an irrational and desperate unsubstantiated conspiracy theory from 2015 gained so much mileage amongst so many.
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