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January 9th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #41
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Name a racer who doesn't take outrageous risks and I'll tell you they have never won a race.
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Name a racer who doesn't take outrageous risks and I'll tell you they have never won a race.
Alain Prost.

He never took outrageous risks.

The late great Denis Jenkinson commented back in 1983 after watching Prost going around the Circuit de Spa Francorchamps, that "there has never been a duller proposition than watching Alain Prost go around a track, yet somehow he managed to set the fastest lap on the day. There must be a lesson in there somewhere." Prost was one of the dullest drivers to watch out there, yet he had 41 fastest laps in grands prix, and Ayrton Senna only had 19.

In fact he became even more circumspect regarding the dangers of racing when in the torrential rain at the old Hockenheimring in 1982, he had the misfortune of Didier Pironi running into the back of his Renault at high speed during practice. Prost saw how badly Pironi's legs were damaged from the accident that he never took outrageous risks as a result. He parked his car in Adelaide 1989 when he had wrapped the title up due to the rain. He drove to the exact position he needed to in a given race. In spite of it, he won 51 grands prix and 4 world championships, and on top of that he was in serious contention for another 4 world championships, losing one by half a point. In fact I've argued elsewhere that he was may have been the greatest F1 world champion of them all when you look at his career. But that's not something I want to get into.
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January 9th, 2017, 06:01 PM   #43
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prost was ideal in the turbo era. everyone had lots of dnf's both due to mechanical failure (mostly) and also human error on driving those beasts! so if you drove less aggresive and calmly you had a better chance to finish. on the other hand lauda beat him on a same car and senna in his rookie year with a car prost developed.
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January 9th, 2017, 06:05 PM   #44
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and lets not forget his famous fuel strategies!!!!!
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Name a racer who doesn't take outrageous risks and I'll tell you they have never won a race.
Outrageous risks = dnf ...... so only anyone who crashes.
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Alain Prost.

He never took outrageous risks.

The late great Denis Jenkinson commented back in 1983 after watching Prost going around the Circuit de Spa Francorchamps, that "there has never been a duller proposition than watching Alain Prost go around a track, yet somehow he managed to set the fastest lap on the day. There must be a lesson in there somewhere." Prost was one of the dullest drivers to watch out there, yet he had 41 fastest laps in grands prix, and Ayrton Senna only had 19.

In fact he became even more circumspect regarding the dangers of racing when in the torrential rain at the old Hockenheimring in 1982, he had the misfortune of Didier Pironi running into the back of his Renault at high speed during practice. Prost saw how badly Pironi's legs were damaged from the accident that he never took outrageous risks as a result. He parked his car in Adelaide 1989 when he had wrapped the title up due to the rain. He drove to the exact position he needed to in a given race. In spite of it, he won 51 grands prix and 4 world championships, and on top of that he was in serious contention for another 4 world championships, losing one by half a point. In fact I've argued elsewhere that he was may have been the greatest F1 world champion of them all when you look at his career. But that's not something I want to get into.
There you go. I was a Prost man as well, although not from the start, for similar reasons, and was aware of the pole position vs fastest lap dichotomy, which exactly reflects your point imo, ie Prost was at least as fast but not prepared to take the same risks.
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So Prost was perfect all the time was he? Not once, even in his formative years en-route to F1 did he not have a brain fade and end up stuffing the car into the barriers? I find that very hard to believe.
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Outrageous risks = dnf ...... so only anyone who crashes.
Yes, every racer has an accident that is their fault. Some more than others.
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Yes, every racer has an accident that is their fault. Some more than others.
Early on every racer learns ...

"To finish first ... first you must finish"
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So Prost was perfect all the time was he? Not once, even in his formative years en-route to F1 did he not have a brain fade and end up stuffing the car into the barriers? I find that very hard to believe.
Trying to move the goalposts?

Come on already Ant.

I showed you're out here making unfounded statements.
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