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October 20th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #61
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It's kind of sad how all the Boppers leap at any opportunity to bash on Lorenzo (and Stoner before him) as being "Mentally Weak," etc.

Funny, a real person, with real fears, anxieties, and personality 'glitches' has managed to beat your GOAT as often as not. That makes JL's titles even more impressive, no? The glory-whoring fanbois would no doubt disagree, but real racing fans, and real-world people who realize that no one is perfect, just might see things differently.
If Rossi was just cruising around, I'd criticize him too! Rossi nearly crashed twice in FP1! He was actually putting forth EFFORT!


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You didn't even watch FP1 did you? If you had, you would've seen Lorenzo cruising around like he was on a parade lap. The commentators even said they can't sugarcoat it anymore... Lorenzo has mental problems in the wet. You can call it nonsense or Lorenzo hate all you want, it is what it is.
Perhaps somewhat related to me being in Boston at a conference having spent 25 hours flying here, and losing/leaving my iPhone at work before I left.

I am fairly broadminded, but object to sanctimony, which seems to be your thing. Jorge as far as I know has objected to claims that he didn't really win his 3rd premier class title, but has not tried to claim any that he didn't actually win. It is only, or mainly anyway, Rossi and his sycophants who do that. I am very happy to acknowledge every title since 1986 as fairly won.
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You guys are weird. Lorenzo has issues with the wet. It's very obvious. What that has to do with whether "moto vudu" is a "bopper" Rossi fan or not, I have not a fucking clue.
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Perhaps somewhat related to me being in Boston at a conference having spent 25 hours flying here, and losing/leaving my iPhone at work before I left.

I am fairly broadminded, but object to sanctimony, which seems to be your thing. Jorge as far as I know has objected to claims that he didn't really win his 3rd premier class title, but has not tried to claim any that he didn't actually win. It is only, or mainly anyway, Rossi and his sycophants who do that. I am very happy to acknowledge every title since 1986 as fairly won.
You flew 25 hours to Boston, lost your iPhone, you're at a conference, and you're still posting on this forum. Congratulations! You put forth way more effort to post on this site than Lorenzo does to ride on wet tires!
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Did anyone see this: Wayne Gardner & son arrested in Japan?
Poor Wayne needs a ride, man. I hope they make it home for the race. That would suck for his kid. And the pits must be a fun place for the three world champions to screw around.
W. Gardner was the man as I grew up near Suzuka. Did he forget asians can't drive?
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You flew 25 hours to Boston, lost your iPhone, you're at a conference, and you're still posting on this forum. Congratulations! You put forth way more effort to post on this site than Lorenzo does to ride on wet tires!
The conference doesn't go all day and night, but having gone to substantial trouble and expense to attend said conference I do as is my habit actually go to the sessions, and if you can find a feed of FP1 in a hotel room in Boston you do for once surpass me.

Even more ridiculous is for you to question Lorenzo's courage, given he rode after the massive high side last week let alone Assen 2013.

I agree with a previous poster, I like my sporting heroes flawed anyway as I have said myself. Only the "mentally weak"/mentally challenged believe in invincible superheroes imo, particularly since the one in question where you are concerned has easily out whinged any and all opponents in any case.
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The conference doesn't go all day and night, but having gone to substantial trouble and expense to attend said conference I do as is my habit actually go to the sessions, and if you can find a feed of FP1 in a hotel room in Boston you do for once surpass me.

Even more ridiculous is for you to question Lorenzo's courage, given he rode after the massive high side last week let alone Assen 2013.

I agree with a previous poster, I like my sporting heroes flawed anyway as I have said myself. Only the "mentally weak"/mentally challenged believe in invincible superheroes imo, particularly since the one in question where you are concerned has easily out whinged any and all opponents in any case.
I didn't question Lorenzo's courage, I questioned his effort on wet tracks this season.
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You guys are weird. Lorenzo has issues with the wet. It's very obvious. What that has to do with whether "moto vudu" is a "bopper" Rossi fan or not, I have not a fucking clue.
He definitely has confidence issues (lack of confidence) with the current Michelin wets but that does not then necessarily manifest into a full blown wet weather mental riding issues as his Bridgestone wet weather history is relatively successful.

IMO only, but much like Rossi at Ducati who had little confidence and proceeded to ride around at times a second or two off the pace, Lorenzo's lack of comfort with the tyre means that he is unwilling to push to find the limits or perhaps to generate the necessary heat as he is, after all, primarily a corner speed merchant
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You guys are weird. Lorenzo has issues with the wet. It's very obvious. What that has to do with whether "moto vudu" is a "bopper" Rossi fan or not, I have not a fucking clue.
He has issues with the wet since he lost a world title by crashing in the wet at Assen 2013, despite which he still rode to 4th or 5th in the race 2 days after the resultant clavicular fracture which required surgical fixation in the interim. He rode last week after a massive high side which risked concussion, a problem which nearly ended his career in his rookie year of 2008. If he doesn't want to push to the edge of crashing on substandard Michelin wets which have already unpredictably delaminated on him this year, when the race will likely be dry, on behalf of Yamaha and showing the flag for them, after they have effectively supported the narrative that the 3rd premier class title he won for them last year was illegitimate, I for one don't blame him.

I believe Moto Vudu has a logs and splinters issue.
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He definitely has confidence issues (lack of confidence) with the current Michelin wets but that does not then necessarily manifest into a full blown wet weather mental riding issues as his Bridgestone wet weather history is relatively successful.

IMO only, but much like Rossi at Ducati who had little confidence and proceeded to ride around at times a second or two off the pace, Lorenzo's lack of comfort with the tyre means that he is unwilling to push to find the limits or perhaps to generate the necessary heat as he is, after all, primarily a corner speed merchant
Gaz, Rossi was second fastest and Lorenzo was up the back, same bike, same tyres, same team. Only difference i see is Uccio ... just saying.
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