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October 21st, 2016, 01:19 AM   #91
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Oz GP statistics

Somebody has gone to trouble to work out a lot of statistics about the Australian round and how the riders have performed recently (includes Moto2 and Moto3 components)

https://gallery.mailchimp.com/828d05...RALIA_2016.pdf
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It looks pretty bad on Michelin. Exactly, why bring it down?

They would have a fair bit of data on what range the track temps will be.

Might have got some feedback on it today anyway.
I wonder is any of the other tyres on offer may have a risk of having similar issues but haven't been highlighted to anyone yet.

It happened to Bridgestone after the PI track was resurfaced and even after many years of supplying tyres they still got it wrong. I know Michelin offered up two completely new rear tyres to mitigate this risk but I haven't heard anything about new fronts.
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October 21st, 2016, 02:00 AM   #93
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You'd think someone who works in the motorcycle racing tyre shop would have remembered that PI race too and thought "let's not take a tyre that might fall apart so we don't look like idiots as the last mob did"
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October 21st, 2016, 02:33 AM   #94
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Sneak image - 2017 Ducati with new wet tyres

A sneak picture of the 2017 Ducati desmosedici, complete with prototype wet tyres

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It looks pretty bad on Michelin. Exactly, why bring it down?

They would have a fair bit of data on what range the track temps will be.

Might have got some feedback on it today anyway.
To answer that, you need to ask why riders bothered trying it...as you wrote, feedback?...plus the weather was so nasty that it might have been their best option for getting any laps in at all
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October 21st, 2016, 06:48 AM   #96
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New Saturday schedule is out. For moto3 nothing chances, Moto2 and GP have additional 15 mins on FP3, so 1 hour.

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After MotoGP™ FP2 was cut short at the Michelin® Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix by torrential rain - and Moto2™ FP2 cancelled completely - the schedule for Saturday at Phillip Island will begin an hour earlier, to allow the intermediate and premier classes to gain back some valuable track time.

09:00-09:40 - Moto3™ - Free Practice

09:55-10:55 - MotoGP™ - Timed for Qualifying Session

11:10-12:10 - Moto2™ - Free Practice

13:35-14:15 - Moto3™ - Qualifying Practice

14:30-15:00 - MotoGP™ - Free Practice

15:10-15:25 - MotoGP™ - Qualifying Practice 1

15:35-15:50 - MotoGP™ - Qualifying Practice 2

16:05-16:50 - Moto2™ - Qualifying Practice
via motogp.com

for everyone who is going or will be up and infront of a TV. I sure won't...waaay to early to get up and too late to stay up.
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To answer that, you need to ask why riders bothered trying it...as you wrote, feedback?...plus the weather was so nasty that it might have been their best option for getting any laps in at all
Bottom line is that they have a tyre for which conditions where Michelin are confident it will last half race distance do not exist, since I gather it was barely possible for PI to have been wetter.

I will have to re-examine my criticism of a wide enough variety of tyres not being made available. They have a tyre which only suits extremely wet conditions which will change significantly before half race distance; presumably each tyre comes with its own clairvoyant who advises before the tyre is fitted. Either that or the tyre has a design or construction flaw, as many of us argued after the tyre delaminations in that previous race.
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Michelin® Australian Motorcycle GP 2016 Nicky Hayden extravaganza with spoilers

Why did Michelin issue the soft wets if they're only good for 10 laps? Surely any tyre only capable of such distances that is issued should be deemed as a qualifying tyre.
Now qualifiers are outlawed, shouldn't those tyres have been kept off limits anyway?

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And now, that guy that does not whinge, whine or complain has his usual 'statement' and wants Phillip Island changed to earlier in the year - MotoGP News - Valentino Rossi: Move Australian MotoGP to start of season


I can feel a petition coming on ...............
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Sky seems to be clearing for the moment
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