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September 15th, 2016, 08:19 AM   #631
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Here's some more "rubbish and conjecture"...

"Valentino Rossi was all smiles in Parc Ferme and the post-race press conference in Aragon, but after the cameras were turned off the Italian went and found Pedrosa to ask about his riding during the race."

Isn't it funny how the reporter frames it exactly the way I did regarding the genuineness of Rossi and parc ferme? Anyway here's some more.


"Once the race was over and both riders had partaken in the press conference following the podium celebrations, Spanish newspaper El Pais say that Rossi then went into the pit of Pedrosa to ask him why he had been riding so aggressively. The paper says that Rossi felt a sense of entitlement and was upset at the risks Pedrosa was running as he had nothing to lose.

It goes on to say that Rossi had done the same thing with Marquez in Phillip Island. We all know what Rossi thought of the events by Malaysia, but El Pais say his theory started way early. They write Rossi crashed a party that Honda was having to celebrate Marquez’ win to confront him, asking him why he rode like he did, and questioned why he wanted Lorenzo to win the World Championship."

Rossi questioned Pedrosa after Aragon - GPxtra

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Nothing surfacing until after Sepang, when Spanish El Pais suddenly gets hold of this information. Sorry, seems unlikely, so as is the habit around here I'll just completely disregard it.
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September 15th, 2016, 08:21 AM   #632
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There's no proof we landed on the moon either.

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I'm glad you're here though to defend Lorenzo. Rossi says Lorenzo called him a "dirty" rider. But that's not the words he used. Because you know how you defended Rossi's words and not his meaning the other day, right?

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Well Lorenzo did say that no one passes like Rossi when it came down to the topic of the controversial pass for the lead at Misano. That's about a 1/10th of the stretch you did when making your conclusions about Rossi calling Danis pass Marquezesque.
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September 15th, 2016, 08:29 AM   #633
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Wrong. Rossi's comments on PI 2015 are on record. The PI 2015 events aren't from an unknown magazine source.

You disagree with Rossi's comments, but his feelings and statements were all very real.
The events are real. The conspiracy theory about them is complete conjecture, which is the whole problem.

That Rossi may have approached Pedrosa was reported by several other sources, including David Emmett. To what end this was is certainly conjecture unless Pedrosa or Rossi go on the direct public record themselves which I would consider unlikely in the short term, but conjecture hardly more to be condemned than accusing a rider or riders of cheating to the world press at large with no evidence I wouldn't have thought.
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Well Lorenzo did say that no one passes like Rossi when it came down to the topic of the controversial pass for the lead at Misano. That's about a 1/10th of the stretch you did when making your conclusions about Rossi calling Danis pass Marquezesque.
Quote what Rossi said when he summoned the name Marquez. Then make your case it wasn't a comparison.



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Nothing surfacing until after Sepang, when Spanish El Pais suddenly gets hold of this information. Sorry, seems unlikely, so as is the habit around here I'll just completely disregard it.
You admitted you hadn't even heard about this significant event until I mention it, then provided you a reporter's quote and link. Your solution is to "completely disregard it"; not surprising how you've formed opinions on the matter, aided by ignorance and wonton refusal to accept otherwise. No wonder Rossi was able to effectively sell Marquez was a cheater and he (Rossi) was victimized. You're willing to buy it sight unseen.

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You disagree with Rossi's comments, but his feelings and statements were all very real.
I'm told psychotic people's feelings (despite intangible) are also "real", that doesn't stop making them crazy. Either Rossi's paranoia lead him believe he was being robbed (not uncommon for a sleep deprived person) or like Scott Jones GP reporter said, Rossi made this shit up to deflect from his poor pace. I'm not sure which I believe, both are very plausible.

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Source?
And if I do you promise to apply the same standard to Rossi calling bullshit on him for a misquote? Oh I'm gonna love how you weasel out of this one.

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MV, Jumkie has already posted the source earlier in the thread.
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Here's some more "rubbish and conjecture"...

"Valentino Rossi was all smiles in Parc Ferme and the post-race press conference in Aragon, but after the cameras were turned off the Italian went and found Pedrosa to ask about his riding during the race."

Isn't it funny how the reporter frames it exactly the way I did regarding the genuineness of Rossi and parc ferme? Anyway here's some more.


"Once the race was over and both riders had partaken in the press conference following the podium celebrations, Spanish newspaper El Pais say that Rossi then went into the pit of Pedrosa to ask him why he had been riding so aggressively. The paper says that Rossi felt a sense of entitlement and was upset at the risks Pedrosa was running as he had nothing to lose.

It goes on to say that Rossi had done the same thing with Marquez in Phillip Island. We all know what Rossi thought of the events by Malaysia, but El Pais say his theory started way early. They write Rossi crashed a party that Honda was having to celebrate Marquez’ win to confront him, asking him why he rode like he did, and questioned why he wanted Lorenzo to win the World Championship."

Rossi questioned Pedrosa after Aragon - GPxtra

If you live in a glass house, don't throw rocks.
You 99% poopoo journo's till one comes up with a tale of dastardly doings by Mr Rossi, the truth of the matter is that Spanish and Italian journo's routinely invent and print controversy about the opposing national rider. When it was MM/JL in 2013 there were not many stories at all.
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You 99% poopoo journo's till one comes up with a tale of dastardly doings by Mr Rossi, the truth of the matter is that Spanish and Italian journo's routinely invent and print controversy about the opposing national rider. When it was MM/JL in 2013 there were not many stories at all.




Kropo backed the journalist as being reputable.

Just stop already.
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