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July 15th, 2016, 08:27 AM   #41
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I really hope that damn duc can win on sunday!
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July 15th, 2016, 09:51 AM   #42
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Jorge Lorenzo admits he is struggling everywhere with his Yamaha following Friday practice for the German MotoGP race at Sachsenring.

The reigning world champion crashed heavily in the morning and continued to lack pace in the afternoon, finishing down in 16th position, 1.6 seconds off the pace, the same deficit he had in FP1.

Lorenzo says his works Yamaha M1 did not feel strong anywhere around the German track, but denied his lack of speed had anything to do with his confidence levels after the crash.

"I'm sure if tomorrow we raced at Le Mans I would be fast and I would be competitive," said Lorenzo.

"It's just a combination of not good factors that made me slow.

"We saw that the Yamaha struggled with these conditions and I struggled a little bit more, but the rest of the Yamahas were in the top 10, and I struggled a bit more because with the low grip and after the crash this morning it was difficult to push, to trust the bike.

"At this moment we are not competitive in any area, neither on braking, in the middle of the corner and under acceleration we don't have grip, so we are not fast in any area and that's why we are a second and a half slower than the fastest one."

The Spaniard, who appeared to hurt his left wrist when he crashed at Turn 11 this morning, said he had no problems with it.

"I'm well. I don't have any injuries, or any broken bones, and I can ride like normal," he said.

"What happened was that it was very cold. I entered slightly faster than on the previous lap and the front locked.

"I was much slower than last year, but the conditions and the tyres were not the same."
Rossi also downbeat

Teammate Valentino Rossi also had a tough day, ending second practice 14th, although the Italian was fourth quickest in the morning session.

Nonetheless, the Italian was downbeat of Yamaha's prospects for the weekend, saying its potential was "nothing special".

"It was a difficult day because the weather was very bad, and this makes everything more difficult," said Rossi. "Also it was more dangerous because the softer option for the front is a bit hard for these temperatures.

"I think we can go a little bit faster but our potential is nothing special. Looks like today Yamaha struggled a bit with the front.

"We don't have enough feeling, especially on the right [side] and at Turn 11 and the other right corners, so I wasn't able to make a lap pushing at 100 percent.

"Anyway, we hope tomorrow and especially for Sunday that we have a better forecast, better temperatures, and we can be a bit more competitive."

Lorenzo says struggling Yamaha "not fast in any area"
We'll see what happens.
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Keep an eye out to see if MM runs the revised Barcelona test chassis tomorrow. It's supposed to help with the acceleration out of corner issues.

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Marc Marquez says he hopes to try the revised Honda chassis that the Japanese manufacturer has brought to the Sachsenring during practice on Saturday, weather permitting.

The Repsol-backed squad had been planning to give the latest version of the RC213V frame in practice on Friday, but both sessions took place in unusually cool conditions, the first one also being hit by rain.

Marquez explained that the new chassis – which is a modified version of the one he tried and rejected in the post-Barcelona test – should help address Honda’s long-standing weakness under acceleration.

“We’re basically using the same chassis, the same swing-arm, everything [as the start of the season],” said Marquez, who finished the second practice session third, six tenths behind Maverick Vinales.

“I tried [the new one] in the Montmelo [Barcelona] test but I didn’t like it, and here we have a new chassis, a modification of what we tried in Montmelo.

“Today we didn’t try it because of the conditions, but maybe tomorrow it’s in the plan. The second bike is ready with the new chassis.

“It’s a small modification in another part of the chassis, to try to improve the exit of the corner, which is where we are losing more.”

Marquez also reiterated that the championship is far from won, despite his points advantage over Yamaha riders Jorge Lorenzo and Valentino Rossi, who both struggled on Friday.

“Of course every race that you can improve your advantage, you see that it’s coming better and better for your situation,” said the Spaniard.

“But in the end, you can lead the championship or you can be on top, but there still remains half of the season.

“I remember, for example, 2014, the advantage was very big and everything, but in the second half of the season I crashed in Misano and Aragon, and lose 50 points in two races.

“The good thing about bike racing is that anything can happen until the end.”

Marquez hopes to try new Honda chassis on Saturday
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FP1 and FP2 wont end up being very important, the riders that didn't take much risk were smart not to. Tomorrow the forecast is mostly sunny with 0 chance of rain. Sunday shows a 50% chance of PM showers, but with warmer temperatures. They wont see cold + damp track conditions again. Lap times will be a lot faster tomorrow and the running order will be drastically changed.


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Keep an eye out to see if MM runs the revised Barcelona test chassis tomorrow. It's supposed to help with the acceleration out of corner issues.
Im not sure i would waste my time with it on Saturday if the conditions fro race day are going to be similar to todays where he says they didnt want to use it because of the conditions. Lets say he uses it tomorrow and likes it, chooses it for the race and its a disaster in colder temps. I know he could switch back after morning warm up, but that would be a day lost in dialing in the older chassis. Another reason them choosing not to test at upcoming Austria might have been a bad idea. They could have used that test for new parts onstead of on the run at a race weekend. I guess they know what they are doing, but sometimes you see decisions that make you wonder
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Im not sure i would waste my time with it on Saturday if the conditions fro race day are going to be similar to todays where he says they didnt want to use it because of the conditions. Lets say he uses it tomorrow and likes it, chooses it for the race and its a disaster in colder temps. I know he could switch back after morning warm up, but that would be a day lost in dialing in the older chassis. Another reason them choosing not to test at upcoming Austria might have been a bad idea. They could have used that test for new parts onstead of on the run at a race weekend. I guess they know what they are doing, but sometimes you see decisions that make you wonder
Was it an option for them to test there though? I thought that Ducati hadn't invited Honda to join the test.
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Well I thought Yamaha was claiming they would be treated equal for the entirety of the season?
Think back to the performances of a certain American rider and the equipment underneath him once it was announced that he would be leaving the team (although it was not entirely his choice to leave as there was to be a 'second coming')
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Think back to the performances of a certain American rider and the equipment underneath him once it was announced that he would be leaving the team (although it was not entirely his choice to leave as there was to be a 'second coming')
Exactly what I was thinking.

Yet "fans" continue spinning a bullshit narrative that Ben Spies was a disappointment. No, he wasn't a disappointment. Try competing when you have a deck so stacked against you, and the team threw you under the bus the first opportunity they had when Rossi wanted out of the Ducati Adventure.
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..... Sure they want to win, but not at the expense of a 2017 advantage they might find.
This makes no sense to me. Why would a manufacturer give up a potential current championship that will sell motorcycles NOW and into the future, for some unknown advantage that may or may not work.

Racing is all public relations and people only remember what you are doing NOW, not what you hope will happen in the future. Which is why Aprilia really screwed up moving from a successful WSBK endeavor to a pos MotoGP development nightmare.
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Was it an option for them to test there though? I thought that Ducati hadn't invited Honda to join the test.
I heard that too but i also heard that they had chosen to test at another sight instead to meet their limit. Im not sure the FIM would allow a test that excluded any team that chose to be there as long as they had a test left. They control all official tests
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