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July 2nd, 2016, 04:21 PM   #1
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Lorenzo targeting Gabarrini as crew chief and Stoner

As rider coach

Lorenzo considering Stoner as a rider coach at Ducati - GPxtra

Lorenzo targeting Ducati experienced crew-chiefs - GPxtra
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Interesting. The problem still remains that there is nothing Lorenzo has shown thus far that he will be capable of adapting to a bike that has required the rider adapt, rather than the bike adapting to the rider.

Having Stoner as the rider coach is nice, but frankly, there is no one that has ever been able to do what Casey did on a bike. I don't mean to sound like a negative Nancy, but I think Lorenzo is nuts. He may very well win races, but he also may not, and for as talented as he is, his career is probably going to be defined by this move rather than the 5 titles he already has.
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Agreed totally JP but if the report of JL seeking Stoner as a riding coach are correct (and reading the article it does seem either Biaggi or CS) then it may be a showing that he knows that he needs to adapt his style, and who better to use than CS?

Hopefully it is just that, an acknowledgement that he needs to change and if so I see it is a good initial sign, the admitting that changes are needed.

As for Gabbarini, well personally I would rather see him stay and work with Miller (from a purely bias point of view based on nationality lines) but I could not blame him were he to return and I sure as shit sticks to a blanket do not blame Lorenzo for seeking Gabbarini out either

2017 is shaping up with a bit of interest with the machinations that are being spoken about.
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Interesting. The problem still remains that there is nothing Lorenzo has shown thus far that he will be capable of adapting to a bike that has required the rider adapt, rather than the bike adapting to the rider.

Having Stoner as the rider coach is nice, but frankly, there is no one that has ever been able to do what Casey did on a bike. I don't mean to sound like a negative Nancy, but I think Lorenzo is nuts. He may very well win races, but he also may not, and for as talented as he is, his career is probably going to be defined by this move rather than the 5 titles he already has.
Maybe but how do we know he can't adapt, he has only ever ridden a yam.

Also he may not need to adapt, the new duc is very different to the stoner era. The fact that Lorenzo kicked dovis arse in 250 and dovi is fast nearly every week on that thing is promising, dovi should have won on it by now. Lorenzo just might.

He will want stoners help cos he knows Ducati, so it will get him up to speed quicker
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I don't know what Biaggi can offer Lorenzo as a rider coach for Ducati. He rode 1 year on a Ducati in WSBK 8 years ago, a bike that has virtually zero performance characteristics to its GP counterpart . Plus , Max has a history of being cancerous inside a team, something Lorenzo doesn't need anymore of with his already put offish attitude.
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I don't know what Biaggi can offer Lorenzo as a rider coach for Ducati. He rode 1 year on a Ducati in WSBK 8 years ago, a bike that has virtually zero performance characteristics to its GP counterpart .
And the YZR 500 Yamaha that Cadalora rode has no performance characteristics in common with the M1 beneath Rossi. It's about sounding out - an objective observer in terms of performance and technical input. Admittedly Cadalora's understanding and contribution in terms of of the latter would I suggest be superior to Biaggi's. Further, as a personality in the garage, a positive factor, where I agree - Biaggi was a difficult and recalcitrant individual.

I've always found this fashion for riding coaches and mentors highly amusing. Surely it's only a matter of time before someone calls up Kocinski?
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I've always found this fashion for riding coaches and mentors highly amusing. Surely it's only a matter of time before someone calls up Kocinski?

God I just have to .............


Or Gobert

He can be a riding coach and source a supplier of the more, ermmm relaxing kind as well as look out for little old people with money to encourage them to invest in the relevant team
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God I just have to .............


Or Gobert
You could see where that was going then couldn't you Gaz?
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You could see where that was going then couldn't you Gaz?
Heck yeah.


But I seriously reckon that Lorenzo could do worse .......... I mean, Harry Miller may be looking for a gig soon
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I don't know what Biaggi can offer Lorenzo as a rider coach for Ducati. He rode 1 year on a Ducati in WSBK 8 years ago, a bike that has virtually zero performance characteristics to its GP counterpart . Plus , Max has a history of being cancerous inside a team, something Lorenzo doesn't need anymore of with his already put offish attitude.
Biaggi was good at pissing off rossi though ....... maybe thats Lorenzos plan
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