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April 18th, 2016, 06:31 PM   #91
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I agree, there was no intentional attempt by Rossi to punt Marc off the bike. I also agree it was a bizarre non-racing move by Rossi.

What JL thanked Marc for was intentionally interfering with Vale during the race.

I'm sure someone will diagree. JPS?
I didn't see much opportunity for MM to interfere with Rossi at Valencia myself, talented though he may be, given he was in 2nd directly behind JL riding at near record pace the whole race while Rossi never got higher than 4th after being at the back of the grid well away from MM initially.
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The guy is from Australia where Australian English is the main language. Thus, I would expect him to at least speak coherently when trying to make a point.


Granted I am an upper Midwest 'Murican, but I understood what he was getting at. If you truly feel that post was incoherent, you must be new to the Internet.
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I didn't see much opportunity for MM to interfere with Rossi at Valencia myself, talented though he may be, given he was in 2nd directly behind JL riding at near record pace the whole race while Rossi never got higher than 4th after being at the back of the grid well away from MM initially.
Now you are showing your true colors. Who said anything about Valencia?? Of course he didn't interfere at that race, the damage was already done. You are skilled in the art of trolling, my friend. Perhaps that bottle of brew SHOULD be aimed in your general direction.
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But a question, if one is to access riders of a spanish conspiracy, does not the same apply to the Italian riders who moved out of Rossi's way at Valencia to allow an easier path to the front (not that they had to move as he would have passed them quickly anyway)?
Go on, answer. Don't deflect. Stand up and dribble a bullshit answer.


My take is that when the US had a large contingency of riders, if need be they would "lend a hand." Italians have, and will do it as well. If I was in a competition and couldn't win, but could help a compatriot to win I know I would. National pride. It's not a conspiracy.

Go on, don't deflect.
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Granted I am an upper Midwest 'Murican, but I understood what he was getting at. If you truly feel that post was incoherent, you must be new to the Internet.
Let me guess: besides being an upper Midwest 'Murican, you are also a rabid Lorenzobopper?? Your ultimate goal is to get Lorenzo to apply for 'Murican citizenship. Tell the truth, 'Murica is watching you!
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While JPS continues to repeat his "Rossi punted Marc off his bike" conspiracy theory. That's not any less childish. He's already setting the stage to make sure it's an intellectually dishonest debate.
Conspiracy theory?

Imagine if someone sets a loaded gun on a table, aims it at the door, then ties a string around the trigger, and then runs the string at ankle height about 3 feet away from the door so the next person who walks through the door into the room triggers the string thus firing the gun so it kills them.

By your retarded logic (and Tom's too) it should be the victim's fault because well hey they walked into the room when they saw the gun...just like Marquez did it to himself according to Tom.

Intellectually dishonest? Get a clue already Vudu. Being intellectually dishonest would be anyone who actually ignores Rossi moving his leg back at Marquez and then Marquez going right down after his leg moves back. That is what punting another rider off the bike is. Just because it was at 40MPH doesn't somehow diminish the entire incident which is something your brethren have believed to somehow minimize what actually happened....I'll tell you what Vudu.
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This thread is now fucked up like a soup sandwich. Is it that hard to stay on topic.
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Go on, answer. Don't deflect. Stand up and dribble a bullshit answer.


My take is that when the US had a large contingency of riders, if need be they would "lend a hand." Italians have, and will do it as well. If I was in a competition and couldn't win, but could help a compatriot to win I know I would. National pride. It's not a conspiracy.

Go on, don't deflect.
First of all BATURRO, you have taken this to an all time low. We shall discuss your behavior momentarily.

To answer the question, the Italian riders only let Rossi pass once the damage had already been done by the Spaniards. everything was on the up and up until Marc started intentionally slowing (as proven by the time sheets) to upset Rossi's chance at winning his 10th title.

As to you BATURRO, you are a disgrace to this forum, motogp in general, and the spirit of sportsmanship. You just admitted to a world forum of motorsports enthusiasts that you would CHEAT for your countrymen if the need should arise, instead of letting the spirit of fair competition play out. Shame, shame, everyone knows your name!
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I agree, there was no intentional attempt by Rossi to punt Marc off the bike. I also agree it was a bizarre non-racing move by Rossi.

What JL thanked Marc for was intentionally interfering with Vale during the race.

I'm sure someone will diagree. JPS?
You have that mistaken with the Phillip Island race where JL sarcastically thanked MM for helping him by taking away valuable points.
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Conspiracy theory?

Imagine if someone sets a loaded gun on a table, aims it at the door, then ties a string around the trigger, and then runs the string at ankle height about 3 feet away from the door so the next person who walks through the door into the room triggers the string thus firing the gun so it kills them.

By your retarded logic (and Tom's too) it should be the victim's fault because well hey they walked into the room when they saw the gun...just like Marquez did it to himself according to Tom.

Intellectually dishonest? Get a clue already Vudu. Being intellectually dishonest would be anyone who actually ignores Rossi moving his leg back at Marquez and then Marquez going right down after his leg moves back. That is what punting another rider off the bike is. Just because it was at 40MPH doesn't somehow diminish the entire incident which is something your brethren have believed to somehow minimize what actually happened....I'll tell you what Vudu.
Your analogy with the gun is terrible.

Rossi's leg was off the peg because Marc's bike knocked it off. Rossi running Marc wide and blocking his path to turn into the corner wasn't a racing move and he was punished for it. But at no point did he kick Marc's bike.
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