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April 23rd, 2016, 05:31 AM   #91
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That didnt work either...if it had then Pedrosa would have been multi year MotoGP world champion by now....

I don't necessarily agree but, damn witty none the less.


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April 23rd, 2016, 05:52 AM   #92
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That didnt work either...if it had then Pedrosa would have been multi year MotoGP world champion by now....
They couldn't get the mechanical asimo to work, or weren't allowed to use it.
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April 23rd, 2016, 02:18 PM   #93
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That didnt work either...if it had then Pedrosa would have been multi year MotoGP world champion by now....
They tried but given the bike was built for Pedrosa (allegedly), Asimo was to big to fit
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April 23rd, 2016, 02:22 PM   #94
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Gaz and Mike, I think what a lot of the Rossi brethren on this forum feel is that you guys are diminishing the rider portion of the total equation. And I'm not just saying this regarding Rossi, I mean any of the top riders. It's their ability to control the machine, tires, track condition, tire management, etc, that makes a champion. It's the amazing skills of the rider to be able to harness all the component of the win.
Nope, but without the right tyres the riders cannot display the skills that set them apart, quite simple really.

If tyres were of no or very little consequence, why was one rider so adament that he had to switch from Michelin to Bridgestone in order to be competitive?

If tyres are not that critical then why does it matter that Michelin have balls up a few times this year and why are tyres one of the first thing mentioned by riders?


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The way you guys make it sound is that these tires are the major factor, and I would say to that - put a robotic man on the bike then.
There is ............. his name is Lorenzo
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May 3rd, 2016, 01:27 PM   #95
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A little something i dug up from 2007

With his world championship goal edging closer, Casey Stoner is urging MotoGP officials to resist the latest attempt by superstar rival Valentino Rossi to change the tyre regulations.
With six wins out of 11 races, Stoner believes the new 2007 tyre rules have created a level playing field and that Rossi is now searching for excuses.
In the wake of his crushing defeat at the hands of Stoner and Ducati at the US Grand Prix, Rossi has complained the tyre rules are spoiling the championship show.
Rossi was a distant fourth in California and slipped 44 points behind Stoner with seven races remaining.
Using French Michelin tyres, Rossi's Yamaha has won three races this season while Stoner, with Bridgestone tyres from Japan, has won six times.
"At the beginning of the season Valentino and the others were all for the new tyre rules," said Stoner who earlier finished fifth in Germany because of tyre problems.
"And as soon as they don't win the rule is crap, but when they win the rule is nothing.
"I've had my bad races this year, especially in Germany, and I'm not complaining about the tyre rule and that it is unfair.
"They can moan and whinge about it as much as they want but it shows they have had such an advantage in the past and this season they cannot bring a tyre in just for the race.
"It's a matter of relying on the company that supports you to do a good job."
Rossi said after his defeat in America he would consider proposing changes to the tyre regulations.
Under 2007 restrictions, Michelin are unable to bring in hand-made tyres overnight from their factory and all riders are restricted to 17 nominated rear tyres for each race weekend.
"This rule is not good and we need more tyres," Rossi said.
"The problem is for the show because at the end it is the tyre that decides the race."
Until this year Michelin had dominated MotoGP competition with Rossi winning five world championships and 61 races.
However Rossi's famed crew chief, the Adelaide-based engineer Jerry Burgess with 12 world championships to his credit, agrees with Stoner.
"The tyre rule has not been the main reason for Valentino not winning races this season, Burgess said.
"I like the rule, it's equal for everyone and think it should stay."

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Moto GP banned SNS after 2006. After the Elias incident, more and more riders were screaming for equality after they saw what difference it made. Rossi went along with banning them because he didnt want the entire field on them, remember back then, satellite bikes were winning races. Roll forward to 2007, Stoner is kicking Rossi's ass on Bridgestones and he isnt liking it one bit , because, you know, it was fucking up the show. The show was Rossi winning and Dorna agreed, forcing Bridgestone to supply Rossi in 2008 against their will. Hows that for painting a picture J4rno, sounds less and less conspiratorial all the time huh
Smoking gun.

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Smoking bloody pot I reckon!!! Conspiracy woohoo.com , welcome to lalaland ....
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Smoking bloody pot I reckon!!! Conspiracy woohoo.com , welcome to lalaland ....
Do you think Case Stoner was making up the "conspiracy" that Rossi was actively trying to influence the tire regulations 'again'? I didnít write that article nor did I force Stoner to say those words.

You seem like a guy who has watched his fair share of racing, frankly it seems you're unaware that the world is not quite what it seems, that competition like life has an underbelly. You must look at it as a foot race and Dorna is just the impartial referee in charge of pointing out who won. That is "lalaland".




With his world championship goal edging closer, Casey Stoner is urging MotoGP officials to resist the latest attempt by superstar rival Valentino Rossi to change the tyre regulations.


"They can moan and whinge about it as much as they want but it shows they have had such an advantage in the past and this season they cannot bring a tyre in just for the race.


"This rule is not good and we need more tyres," Rossi said.
"The problem is for the show because at the end it is the tyre that decides the race."


So let's recap Daniboy.

1. The article does not mince its words about superstar Rossi trying to influence the tire regulations again "latest attempt".

2. Stoner confirms what we've been telling you about the tire advantage Rossi had for years under the SNS era!

3. Rossi himself confirms tires decide races. "...because at the end it is the tyre that decides the race."


What more do you want? Oh yeah, an official press release that Dorna admits it is a corrupt enity orchestrating self-serving influence the proceedings. What do you suggest I Google? Perhaps key words: I Carmelo admit, I have given preferential treatment to Rossi, and have used my influence and power to persuade/coerce/ horsetrade with vendors, series providers, and rulebook for the purpose of making myself very extremely rich under the guise of competition because I recognized early that Rossi sells TV money.
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"Hey Look!! A dead Horse!!" ... "lets beat the shit out of it!!!"
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"Hey Look!! A dead Horse!!" ... "lets beat the shit out of it!!!"
I wish the horse were dead, but it seems to always sprout yellow legs despite indication to the contrary brother.


Listen to this crazy shit, the bikes in cycling are now being scanned for "mechanical doping". No bullshit. They're even subjecting bikes to MRIs. Sound crazy? Imagine if Rossi's tires were scanned for being SNS-doping between 2001-2006. You think his bike would pass inspection? Hahaha

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Smoking bloody pot I reckon!!! Conspiracy woohoo.com , welcome to lalaland ....
Too bad you have zero ability to think critically, and think the world just operates on the up and up, in spite of zero evidence to support any of this. Sports that are global, but European based all have huge integrity/corruption issues; FIFA, IOC, and F1 are prime examples of this. That's no shock though since European standards have generally been lacking in everything. Took the USA to get the ball rolling quite literally on Sepp Blatter since all Europe did was sit there twiddling it's thumbs. Bernie Ecclestone paid a bribe to get out of a bribery trial. Only in Europe. GP is no different.
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