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May 12th, 2014, 10:41 AM   #1
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Question World Superbike champions vs MotoGP champions?

My friend and I were having a conversation which got me to thinking... I have never seen anyone come from World Superbike to MotoGP and lead in the point standings. Is the difference between the World Superbike champion and the MotoGP champion that much different?
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My friend and I were having a conversation which got me to thinking... I have never seen anyone come from World Superbike to MotoGP and lead in the point standings. Is the difference between the World Superbike champion and the MotoGP champion that much different?
Its pretty well documented how WSBK Champions fail miserably at Moto GP. The list is long and distinguished. So to answer your question, yes, they are that much different
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Its pretty well documented how WSBK Champions fail miserably at Moto GP. The list is long and distinguished. So to answer your question, yes, they are that much different
Conversely, there hasnt been a MotoGP champion that has gone over to WSBK and won that title either.....Biaggi is as close as you can get to winning both so far...
The only Ex-champ left that could try to do it will be Hayden....since JLo, Rossi and Casey are not likely to ever jump or be pushed to WSBK.
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Conversely, there hasnt been a MotoGP champion that has gone over to WSBK and won that title either.....Biaggi is as close as you can get to winning both so far...
The only Ex-champ left that could try to do it will be Hayden....since JLo, Rossi and Casey are not likely to ever jump or be pushed to WSBK.

As far as i know, none have tried in the history of WSBK. Maybe thats why Nicky keeps fighting it, doesnt want to be the first Moto GP champion to end up in a lesser series. I wish he would though, the dude was magic on a Superbike. I think he would go in that series and do similar to what Spies did.
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As far as i know, none have tried in the history of WSBK. Maybe thats why Nicky keeps fighting it, doesnt want to be the first Moto GP champion to end up in a lesser series. I wish he would though, the dude was magic on a Superbike. I think he would go in that series and do similar to what Spies did.
None have tried Povol.....Nicky may see it as a lesser series but it might also have to do with him not wanting to embarrass himself. It has been a fair few years since he has ridden a superbike in a race against not to mention against the like of riders in the current WSBK field....I'd like to see him try in 2016, if for no other reason than be proven wrong....
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The one and only Doohan moved from superbikes with fzr to 500.

SBK Sugo 1988 Race 2 - YouTube


250cc champion john kocinski went to superbikes at 1996 and won the champioship at 1997.
Roche (not champion) went from 500 to superbikes at 1989 and 1990 won the title,2nd at 91', 2nd at 92'.

I dont know more.

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None have tried Povol.....Nicky may see it as a lesser series but it might also have to do with him not wanting to embarrass himself. It has been a fair few years since he has ridden a superbike in a race against not to mention against the like of riders in the current WSBK field....I'd like to see him try in 2016, if for no other reason than be proven wrong....
I personally think the WSBK lineup would play into his favor, Its as weak as i can remember, and is seriously lacking star power at the moment.
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I personally think the WSBK lineup would play into his favor, Its as weak as i can remember, and is seriously lacking star power at the moment.
I was thinking the same thing. WSBK is really weak at the moment. ZERO stars. When that total ass clown Johnny Rae can double, there's no talent in the field or there's something really wrong with the way some have set up their machines. I think it's a combination of both.

I still watch every SBK race but it's a bunch of nobodies. I think most of the GP guys on reasonable machinery would do quite well. That's probably one of the reasons none are interested. There's no clout in the move.
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Zero stars does not equate to a lessened or weaker field of riders.....would we rather see a GP style rider dominate WSBK....i for one would rather see close racing like we have mostly seen so far.....Rea dominating Imola last week was boring, but the rest of the field was good racing....
Now, can someone that has been riding in MotoGP for the last 11 years suddenly jump into WSBK and dominate it on almost any bike....i dont think so at all....
I am sure American Honda would love to see him in WSBK in 2016 (and i hope they push him to go there)...and then we will see if he can pull a Spies....or if he fails...
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What we have in WSBK at the moment is a bunch of good , not great, but good riders who have very little international appeal. There is no Corser, Haga, Spies,Edwards, Fogarty, etc: Any sport needs its Superstar, its benchmark, and WSBK simply doesnt have it. They must start competing with Moto2 to land future stars of the sport, and that means start paying the fucking riders. When you are a secondary racing series you are judged by the strength of your talent that moves to the pinnacle of that sport, and WSS and WSBK are grossly lacking in future talent that will end up in GP. WSBK and BSB have become a joined at the hip revolving door that recycles riders from international to national series, back and forth back and forth because its comfortable. Well guess what, WSBK is getting older by the second, and BSB will soon have to start supplying its riders with Depends. Go look at the rider line up for BSB,its ridiculous. You have riders in their late 30's through 40's running at or near the front. I dont have anything against old riders, i are one, but goddamn, quit telling me how fucking great a certain national series is when you have a 38 year old running away with the proceedings. My point is, Nicky is not old for WSBK, and the current talent has no one even close to being on the GP radar. I didnt say Nicky could win on any bike, but i do believe he would on the top Aprilia , Kawi , Honda , Ducati, or Suzuki
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