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May 4th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #1
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Am I right saying that the LCR is a factory bike and Tamada's bike is a factory bike? Or are they both customer bikes?........I'm lost!

I thought it would make an interesting dabate on the differences between the two bikes and perforances, afterall they are both on french rubber.

Heres this years stats:

Valencia:

Stoner 2nd 46.19
Tamada 10th 46.33

14 seconds differance

Qatar:

Stoner 5th 43.29
Tamada 14th 44.33

64 seconds differance

Turkey:

Stoner 2nd 41.54
Tamada 10th 42.24

30 seconds differance

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I know the bikes have different pilots (obviously!), but if these teams get the same bike, surley Tamada should be up there more?

1st need to know if they have the same bike?
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Yep they are on the same bike, I read an article on Honda's bike and Casey, Toni and Makoto are riding standard customer RCVs.

Melandri and Pedrosa have the standard RCV some special HRC parts, and Nicky is riding the evolution of the Brno Prototype which is different to all the other Hondas.
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May 4th, 2006, 03:37 AM   #3
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Well there 'ya go Ben!

Its a real pity not to see Tamada up near the front at all, whats that all about? tyres? confidence?

It definately aint the bike. It cant be.
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Well I'm sure Makoto is thinking about that also, he's got the same bike and tires as the rest of Honda riders, but he is the slowest.

There are other isssues, maybe his team is not good enough with the bike's settings, but I think he should go back to Bridgestone, he's lost his confidence, maybe he IS the slowest of the Honda guys, but the difference is too big, can't be just that the others are that much better, this guy won 2 GPs just a couple of years ago.

A case of Setenitis.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teomolca @ May 4 2006, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>the difference is too big, can't be just that the others are that much better, this guy won 2 GPs just a couple of years ago.

Exactly teo.

This guy is super super quick on his day and its a real shame he has lost confidence(im sure its in his head and not the bike)

Seems like they dropped Bridgestones at the wrong time doesnt it?....
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May 4th, 2006, 05:00 AM   #6
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They are both Customer bikes.

The works boys are the Repsol Honda Team plus Melandri (HRC Test rider)
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May 4th, 2006, 07:01 AM   #7
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The difference is Tamada. From what I've heard he's lost quite a bit mentally since he got busted up last year with all the injuries. I'm sure that lack of confidence comes from being uncomfortable with Michelins but who knows for sure. Would he flourish again on 'Stones? Hard to say, when a rider's head isn't right it's tough for them to be competitive. Look at Ben Bostrom back on Dunlops, he still doesn't finish top five.
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May 5th, 2006, 09:37 AM   #8
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Ben here is the answer to you question

Casey Stoner is one of the least supported Honda riders in the MotoGP paddock - riding a customer spec RC211V for the new LCR outfit - but the Australian sensation insists that he's treated equally by HRC.
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I've heard the eurosport commentators talking about tamada last race. It seems to be the problems with his tyres and confidence, like ooost and teo said. in the pre-season a lot of people around him (like the 2 dutchmen patrick and jurgen vd goorbergh) have given tamada advice not to choose michelin, but tamada was 'a bit headstrong' with his choice

but the last year he drove a honda minolta on bridgestone, he wasn't a top 10 rider too, so it must be something bigger then only his tyres
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IIRC last year Makoto san was on Michelins already.
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