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October 14th, 2011, 10:40 AM   #1
 
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http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2011/M...Phillip+Island



Anyone know where to find video of this? Besides Motogp.com
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October 14th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #2
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Already being discussed in PI thread. Judge Dredd has spoken and Marquez will be put to death at sundown
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I dont bother with those threads, way too much shite to wade through to find anything worth reading.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMPFU2gQCQA not the best but all I could find so far
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Already being discussed in PI thread. Judge Dredd has spoken and Marquez will be put to death at sundown
You ass. Nah man, I just think the penalty should fit the crime a bit more. Starting from the back is lame. These guys get starting from the back penalties for less shit. Btw, I like the tone of this article below.



http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/Oct/111014marcmad.htm
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You ass. Nah man, I just think the penalty should fit the crime a bit more. Starting from the back is lame. These guys get starting from the back penalties for less shit. Btw, I like the tone of this article below.



http://superbikeplan...1014marcmad.htm
I agree, it was stupid and i called him a dumbass. A championship is a pretty harsh penalty though. What you have to take into consideration, especially in GP, is the sponsor. The companies pay big dollars to have their name splashed on these machines. When you sit a bike out of a race, there goes 1/17th of the advertising they paid for. Pissing off sponsors is never good in any sport, GP cant afford to be pissing anyone off at the moment, especially Repsol. Give him a fine he will never forget, start him at the rear and let it go, with the warning that this will not turn into a demolition derby on Sunday. I saw a much more experienced rider do something every bit as bone headed as what Marquez did today without sanction. It ended his career, but as far as i know, he was never punished by the sanctioning body. Do you remember Scott Russell.
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Grinding up Marquez's balls and tossing them to the seagulls isn't the answer.

The guy's (usually) no idiot. I'm sure that, penalty or no, he will never do something like that again. Crashing and flying through the air will leave a far greater impression than any imaginable fine.



(OTOH, I haven't seen the video yet. Was he really going a full 100% while everyone else was on an out lap?)



IMO, the race directors should haul all the riders to mandatory safety meetings to be held several times per year. Apart from other safety issues, be sure to show them Magee/Shobert and any other "dumb stunt" wrecks they can find. Point out that running a race, or even a few 100% qual laps, takes a lot of mental effort and than the natural reaction afterward is to relax. Emphasize that they can not allow themselves to zone out until they are completely off the track.



Hey, at least Mark wasn't..



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Grinding up Marquez's balls and tossing them to the seagulls isn't the answer.

The guy's (usually) no idiot. I'm sure that, penalty or no, he will never do something like that again. Crashing and flying through the air will leave a far greater impression than any imaginable fine.



(OTOH, I haven't seen the video yet. Was he really going a full 100% while everyone else was on an out lap?)
Maybe not castrating him, but certainly not a 'start from the back' penalty. I thought most people would agree that something a bit more substantial should be the penalty. I'm not saying Marc is worse than cancer, (or as Pov characterized me as Judge Dread, haha) so lets not go extreme. But dude almost killed a guy because he was trying to check out his settings--that is like shaving or texting while driving (though Pov may need more of an explanation to see the correlation). He went out under the time to get in one hot lap, so he was in a desperate mode to be prepared(check the settings)...kinda like shaving on your way to work. Read some of the comments left on this article.



http://motomatters.c...r_free_pra.html
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And i'll add, Marc's team should have issued an apology rather than a protest. That would hav been the right thing to do, rather than stay in championship mode, they should have switched to human mode.
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Grinding up Marquez's balls and tossing them to the seagulls isn't the answer.

The guy's (usually) no idiot. I'm sure that, penalty or no, he will never do something like that again. Crashing and flying through the air will leave a far greater impression than any imaginable fine.



(OTOH, I haven't seen the video yet. Was he really going a full 100% while everyone else was on an out lap?)



IMO, the race directors should haul all the riders to mandatory safety meetings to be held several times per year. Apart from other safety issues, be sure to show them Magee/Shobert and any other "dumb stunt" wrecks they can find. Point out that running a race, or even a few 100% qual laps, takes a lot of mental effort and than the natural reaction afterward is to relax. Emphasize that they can not allow themselves to zone out until they are completely off the track.



Hey, at least Mark wasn't..



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I saw it live as it happened. Although Marquez did run into Willairot, he had not passed the chequered flag yet. It was dumb on his part to go out on the track from the pits with less than a minute remaining in the session (especially if it's not for a qualifying lap), but Willairot and the other rider next to him were just cruising SIDE BY SIDE on the race line. From Marquez's vantage point, he could not see them there. Surely he didn't just go Kamikaze out of nowhere! It will be a tall order to come from the back of the grid to try and win, but we have all seen him recover from disappointment this year. Willairot was diagnosed with no serious injuries, by the way. Ciao
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