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September 2nd, 2011, 07:33 PM   #1
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Krop has an article that no doubt you will all read (doesn't everybody read motomatters.com?).



http://www.motomatte...d_up_how_s.html



We have had scattered discussions regarding this in the past.



As per Krops article Carmelo Ezpeleta has come out and said that within a few years MotoGP will be 100% CRT or Moto1 as I like to refer to them as and factories will be gone. Personally I think this is good for the sport because with any luck we may return to prototyping for racing purposes rather than production purposes.



A couple of points I think are worth discussing as flow on's from MotoGP becoming Moto1 are:



Will we see race teams morphing into new boutique bike manufacturers and providing race replica bikes for sale to the likes of you and me. I can see that this will allow fans to become fans of the race teams rather than just riders because they have a unique bit of kit parked in the garage.



The big topic for me though is will we see Rossi start (for those who watch AMA MX) his own version of Chad Reeds, Two Two Motorsports maybe a FourSix Moto1 Team (although I am sure he will come up with something distinctly Rossi for a name) in 2013? Funding would be no problem at all and the politics is right up his alley also so I am sure he would be able to put together a top piece of kit with a top team to keep it all going. Could Rossi win on a Moto1 bike under his own banner?



It is not just Rossi who may do this as potentially their could be a TwoSeven Moto1 Team or a NineNine one etc etc.



What about riders like Abraham who bought their way in? Could this be an avenue for well backed riders to buy into the pinnacle by starting their own teams?



What else could be the benefits of no manufactures just race teams. What about the negatives? Are the regulations too tight to make it successful? Do you think their is room for pure prototyping of predominately the chassis?
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sounds good to me man. as long as they are really loud, really fast and the racing close, that would keep me happy, as well as most fans too i would imagine
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I don't like that idea. I like Moto GP because it is the top guys on cutting edge, difficult to ride equipment. Dumbing it down just to make big fields & bikes rideable for everyone is just stupid as far as I'm concerned.



I would rather see Moto GP stay prototypes & world superbikes become a series for special, limited edition manufacturer bikes like the Honda RC30. Bikes must race with the equipment they leave the factory with & they must make a run of maybe 300 bikes which would be available to the public.
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From the lnk above



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Stoner had plenty of praise for the work ethic at Ducati, though. "I know how hard the Ducati guys work," he said, "and it's disappointing to watch them struggle so much."


What do people make of this comment from Stoner???



Is it genuine for the guys he left behind or is it a dig at the new crew that have moved in to the house that was Stoner's?



or a different meaning?
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I honestly think Stoner believes Rossi is not trying hard enough. Which is what I believe too.



He is waiting for Ducati to make the bike perfect so anybody can ride it ..... then he will try !!??? WTF is that!?



Though even if he did try I doubt he would e in front of Pedro/Lorenzo/Stoner, mainly because they are a step above him, and Stoner possibly 2 steps.



Stoner has skills Rossi never had:

http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/20...me-Stoner.html
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Using CRT to populate the entire grid is a bad idea. I doubt Ezpeleta wants to get rid of the factory teams completely b/c they bring money and sponsorship to the track. Furthermore, many of the manufacturers don't even have a suitable bore measurements on their production engines to be competitive in CRT trim.



I'm hoping that Ezpeleta meant the following: In two or three years, fully-developed CRT bikes will be capable of beating factory machines. The MSMA will be forced to adopt 24L fuel regulations.
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From the lnk above







What do people make of this comment from Stoner???



Is it genuine for the guys he left behind or is it a dig at the new crew that have moved in to the house that was Stoner's?



or a different meaning?


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I honestly think Stoner believes Rossi is not trying hard enough. Which is what I believe too.



He is waiting for Ducati to make the bike perfect so anybody can ride it ..... then he will try !!??? WTF is that!?



Though even if he did try I doubt he would e in front of Pedro/Lorenzo/Stoner, mainly because they are a step above him, and Stoner possibly 2 steps.



Stoner has skills Rossi never had:

http://www.gpone.com...ome-Stoner.html


Why not post this in one of the many Rossi vs Stoner threats, rather than clogging this threat up with it? I'm serious, Barry's link is quite interesting and confusing, and I'd like to discuss it, but I don't want to hijack this threat.
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Barry's link is quite interesting and confusing, and I'd like to discuss it, but I don't want to hijack this threat.


That's exactly what I thought ....... but based on the title I posted it anyway
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Using CRT to populate the entire grid is a bad idea. I doubt Ezpeleta wants to get rid of the factory teams completely b/c they bring money and sponsorship to the track. Furthermore, many of the manufacturers don't even have a suitable bore measurements on their production engines to be competitive in CRT trim.



I'm hoping that Ezpeleta meant the following: In two or three years, fully-developed CRT bikes will be capable of beating factory machines. The MSMA will be forced to adopt 24L fuel regulations.


Do you think there is any chance we could see Rossi on a Moto1 bike under his own banner in 2013?
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WSGP. What's next? Have 'em all riding on an oval? Oh well.... can't beat 'em - join 'em. Anyone think Carmine is using this threat as a bargaining card to get the the manufacturers to be more compliant?
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