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July 27th, 2011, 11:20 PM   #1
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The move Stoner made on Pedro going through the corkscrew was pretty impressive but the move going into turn 1 to take the lead from Lorenzo was one of the most incredible overtaking moves I reckon I have seen. That took balls and skill to pull it off and I was amazed Casey was able to reel it in and stay ahead of JLo exiting the corner....I cant find a link to the aired TV footage but below is a link from a trackside spectator....BTW If anyone has got a link to the aired footage please post it....TIA







Check out the acceleration of these bikes once they exit turn 1...........FAAAAAARRRRRRRRKKKKKKK! These things are missiles.



Here is what Kevin Schwantz had to say about the move post race.....



"That was a big balls move, it took my breath away, I haven't seen anything better than that," Schwantz said. "When I saw Casey going for that move I thought, 'no fing way.' "That corner is wide open at 300kph, flat in sixth gear over the top of a blind crest and Casey came down the outside of Jorge and just sucked the paint off his bike."



And here is an article where Revin Kevin talks more about "the pass" and the race in general....



http://m.sportrider.com/news/146_110...ack/index.html



Apparently Lorenzo thought that pass was a bit too much.....To him I'd say "thats racing"
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Only too much to Jorge because it was pulled on him and showed him up.
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Only too much to Jorge because it was pulled on him and showed him up.


Bullshit, it didn't show him up he just got passed. It isn't like Jorge is slow through that turn and Casey made a fool of him, Casey just nailed it on a lap where Jorge didn't. Incredible pass, massive credit to Stoner for having the balls to try it and then making it work but that doesn't imply any discredit to the guy being passed.
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As Stoner himself said, he only took it because Lorenzo wheelied at the start of the straight. You could see Lorenzoreact to the wheelie by backing off and then Stoner decided to go outside him.



Was Certainly an amazing pass and one that was pretty much the result of the duel that was going on. ie. Lorenzo was covering all bases real well so I guess Stoner was ready for any mistake.
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The pass was possible because Lorenzo made a small mistake, -- his bike was wheeling a bit too much coming into the straight and that was enough to give the advantage to Stoner who came out cleaner and faster. But even like that, it took the proverbial balls and tons of skill to actually pull off such a close overtake at that speed. Kudos to Stoner!



What puzzled me was the news that later Stoner went to Lorenzo and "apologized" for overtaking him in that way. That's funny, since what they both do as a profession is called racing... And that was a brave and masterful example of motorcycle racing, nothing to apologize about it.
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Thanks for the video Squiggle. What a great track to watch racing at!



Agree with your comments Jrno and I suspect if given the same opportunity in the future he would do the same again (despite the protestations of his good wife).
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The pass was possible because Lorenzo made a small mistake, -- his bike was wheeling a bit too much coming into the straight and that was enough to give the advantage to Stoner who came out cleaner and faster. But even like that, it took the proverbial balls and tons of skill to actually pull off such a close overtake at that speed. Kudos to Stoner!



What puzzled me was the news that later Stoner went to Lorenzo and "apologized" for overtaking him in that way. That's funny, since what they both do as a profession is called racing... And that was a brave and masterful example of motorcycle racing, nothing to apologize about it.
I agree.
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The pass was possible because Lorenzo made a small mistake, -- his bike was wheeling a bit too much coming into the straight and that was enough to give the advantage to Stoner who came out cleaner and faster. But even like that, it took the proverbial balls and tons of skill to actually pull off such a close overtake at that speed. Kudos to Stoner!



What puzzled me was the news that later Stoner went to Lorenzo and "apologized" for overtaking him in that way. That's funny, since what they both do as a profession is called racing... And that was a brave and masterful example of motorcycle racing, nothing to apologize about it.


It is simply respect and good manners. Casey was on the outside of Jorge and came accross his line forcing Jorge to back off or crash, all at one of the fastest corners possible. It was totally clean but clearly a very tough move.
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It is simply respect and good manners. Casey was on the outside of Jorge and came accross his line forcing Jorge to back off or crash, all at one of the fastest corners possible. It was totally clean but clearly a very tough move.
Agree, they both know and respect how horribly wrong things could have gone had it not been for the precision of both riders. Not many crashes come at those speeds. I have read numerous accounts of the pass and you can tell who knows what with the responses. Some are like, i dont see what the big deal is, he passed him on the front straight. That is one tricky ass corner, if you want to call it a corner. Blind rise, negative camber and wide fucking open. If they come together at the crest of the hill and Stoner gets knocked over just a hair, he is more than likely off track at 170 mph. It took huge balls to attempt. I would say after Jorge cleaned out his pants, he appreciated the move.
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