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March 16th, 2011, 03:06 AM   #1
 
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Here's the latest interview from Australian Motorcycle News with Stoner and Burgess. I've typed this out here for the non-Aussies (as most Aussies will be reading this tonight in AMCN anyway ). I think these articles answer alot of pre-season questions (some of which have been answered already by many people posting here) but now we have some confirmation.



If I can find a scanner, I'll try and scan the full Stoner interview or maybe some other Aussies can post it here. The Stoner interview was too long to try to type so I just include the important bits.



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THE MIRACLE WORKER (article 1 - Colin Young)



There are no miracles at honda, just casey stoner. that is the simple formula that will make Honda a real championship threat in 2011 according to Jeremy Burgess, MOtogp's winningest crew chief.



And Burgess has dismissed commentary that a supposedly radical seamless shift Honda gearbox is an advantage. "It's not rocket science," Buerguss said in advance of Sunday's opening racoon Qatar.



The final model of Honda's 800cc RC212V is very fast but only a refined evolution of the bike that was winning races with Dani Pedrosa in the second half of 2010.



"Honda hasn't done anything special except hire a new rider (Stoner)," Burgess said.



"And I don't understand the fuss on the Honda gearbox; it is totally standard engineering these days. The Honda is going well but the bike is similar to what is was at the end of last year, there are no miracles there."



"Dani would not be going as fast as he is now if Casey wasn't fast. I think Honda hired Csey to be champion, the guy who has been number one for a few years hasn't performed."



"That is what you have to do when you have a good bike, eventually you have to hire the right rider. I've been in that position at Honda, a rider user to get two years to perform."



"Moving to Honda is the best move of Casey's career. At Honda he doesn't have to worry about the bike, just winning races".



Burgess worked for HRC for 21 years playing a key role in world championships won by Freddie SPencer, Wayne Gardener, Mick Doohan and Valentino Rossi.



He remains drinking mates with HRC boss Shuhei Nakamoto and has no doubt that Stoner's talent will be a force this season. In five seasons with the factory team Pedros has not delivered a championship.



GEARBOX THEORY (article 2 - Colin Young)



Burgess has just come of seven years at Yamaha to join Ducati with Valentino Rossi. TOgether the duo has won seven championships.



"All this talk about an advanced seamless shift gearbox will not be the reason Honda will win races," Burgess said. I can tell you that you would be a mug to think that the Yamaha YZR-M1 gearbox is not something special."



"If anyone thinks Honda now has cutting edge technology it might be because they have come from behind."



"Yamaha has a very smooth. advanced system. I know how it works and I've been privy to the inside of some trick F1 gearboxes with the top teams."



"Seamless shifting is not an engineering marvel. You might save one hundredth of a second, and that's only on an upshift, although it is a nice feeling for the rider."



The 2011 championship will be Burgess's 32 session in GP racing now having working with Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha and Ducati.



CALM BEFORE THE STORM (article 3 - Matt Oxley)



"He rode his first motorcycle when he was 16 months old"



"Stoner rode his first race when he was 4 and won 41 national dirt track titles by the

time he was 13."



"This style of racing demands an aggression , commitment and willingness to go instantly on the attack that no other racing discipline can match."



"That's one reason he changed team, Ducati - or rather it's sponsor , Marlboro - works it's riders hard on the PR circuit."



"There were other reasons of course, "It wasn't riding the Ducati or Valentino talking to Ducati that made me change, because they only went after Valentino when I was going elsewhere. It was the Lorenzo thing in 2009 that annoyed me. Ducati are always crying about how they haven't got enough money, then they offered Lorenzo more than double what I was on. Tey're two faced. The people I actually worked with - Felippo Preziosi and the guys who worked on the bikes - were brilliant, but the bosses tell you one thing and do another."



Stoner admires riders from Doohan's era more than anyone. "Back in those days it was just racing - Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardner, Lawson - not half as much bullshit as now. That was the life."



Doohan and his peers raced with no mercy and no traction control. Stoner says that he would ban traction control if he could - for a 26 year old he is remarkably old school. "I'd rather race without it. When I won the title I was hammered for being the new-age rider who just trusted the traction control. Finally people are starting to realise that I use less than anyone. I like it that way, I feel much better with the bike."



THROTTLE CONTROL (article 4 - Matt Oxley)



Stoner doesn't believe he's got some kind of unique talent for throttle control. He just tries to combine different kind of throttle skills.



"When I first road the Honda…. …for me the engine was way to dull, too smooth."



"you see how Nicky Hayden can slide and wheelspin and it looks like he's got extremely good throttle control, but he can't find traction with that style of throttle style of throttle control," he explains. "Dani Pedrosa is very good at finding traction with his style of throttle control, but he can't slide like other people."



"I try to use more of a balance, so I can ride like Dani when I want to - pick up the bike and find the grip - but also I can also ride like Nicky and do what he does."



"So it all depends what's best on what day and at what track - even corner by corner, its' all different."


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how reconfirming, i hope the few people who really thought the gearbox is worth a second per lap and that the honda just suddenly is sooooo much faster than the yamaha read this.
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how reconfirming, i hope the few people who really thought the gearbox is worth a second per lap and that the honda just suddenly is sooooo much faster than the yamaha read this.


Seems like Livio Suppo's line of thinking was correct. Once you have a rider going fast on the same machinery, the other riders stop complaining so much and just get on with going faster.



Then the same bike suddenly becomes a great bike! When really it's more a change of perception than a change of machinery.
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Seems like Livio Suppo's line of thinking was correct. Once you have a rider going fast on the same machinery, the other riders stop complaining so much and just get on with going faster.



Then the same bike suddenly becomes a great bike! When really it's more a change of perception than a change of machinery.
yes, indeed.



without taking anything away from my beloved colin edwards,i guess being lorenzos teammate pushes spies more than the extra little bit more the factory m1 has to offer.
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Thank for taking the time to share this, much appreciated
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Seems like Livio Suppo's line of thinking was correct. Once you have a rider going fast on the same machinery, the other riders stop complaining so much and just get on with going faster.



Then the same bike suddenly becomes a great bike! When really it's more a change of perception than a change of machinery.
I believe that too,very much.

It's nice to hear Burgess and Stoner talk openly about the big subjects that many others would shugar coat too.
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"There were other reasons of course, "It wasn't riding the Ducati or Valentino talking to Ducati that made me change, because they only went after Valentino when I was going elsewhere. It was the Lorenzo thing in 2009 that annoyed me. Ducati are always crying about how they haven't got enough money, then they offered Lorenzo more than double what I was on. Tey're two faced. The people I actually worked with - Felippo Preziosi and the guys who worked on the bikes - were brilliant, but the bosses tell you one thing and do another."



Stoner admires riders from Doohan's era more than anyone. "Back in those days it was just racing - Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardner, Lawson - not half as much bullshit as now. That was the life."





This is why i like Stoner, he is old school in his racing, and his life. He has a sense of what loyalty and betrayal are all about and live his life by that code .He could care less about drawing attention to himself.No chicken suits, no astronauts, just be fair with me, let me race, then go home to my wife. My kind of racer
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This is why i like Stoner, he is old school in his racing, and his life. He has a sense of what loyalty and betrayal are all about and live his life by that code .He could care less about drawing attention to himself.No chicken suits, no astronauts, just be fair with me, let me race, then go home to my wife. My kind of racer


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yes, indeed.



without taking anything away from my beloved colin edwards,i guess being lorenzos teammate pushes spies more than the extra little bit more the factory m1 has to offer.


Agree.



I'm sure spies learnt the motivational value of having a cranky, arrogant & talented team mate when he raced with mladin. Now his team mate is just arrogant & talented, he must feel like something is missing. Maybe if he had that little bit more to piss him off it would help him go faster again.



I like that edward, hayden, spies, stoner, they dont really give a shit about the media, they dont expect special treatment, they're happy to let their riding speak for itself, they just want a fair crack. I hope to see those guys up the front alot more this year.



interesting where stoner talks about sliding like nicky or standing the bike up more like dani. spies already had the sliding style and picked up more of the 250cc style, rossi had the 250cc style and picked up the sliding style over a few seasons, but lorenzo, not so sure what will happen him once it moves back to 1000cc. spies, stoner, rossi, hayden, i think will be fine, but the guys with the strong 250cc background, its a much harder transition. That's not to say that he wont do it, as he is talented, but 1000cc has so much more torque, we should see different lines from the guys racing that should help the ex dirt guys, whereas the current style favours the ex250cc guys.
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"There were other reasons of course, "It wasn't riding the Ducati or Valentino talking to Ducati that made me change, because they only went after Valentino when I was going elsewhere. It was the Lorenzo thing in 2009 that annoyed me. Ducati are always crying about how they haven't got enough money, then they offered Lorenzo more than double what I was on. Tey're two faced. The people I actually worked with - Felippo Preziosi and the guys who worked on the bikes - were brilliant, but the bosses tell you one thing and do another."



Stoner admires riders from Doohan's era more than anyone. "Back in those days it was just racing - Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardner, Lawson - not half as much bullshit as now. That was the life."





This is why i like Stoner, he is old school in his racing, and his life. He has a sense of what loyalty and betrayal are all about and live his life by that code .He could care less about drawing attention to himself.No chicken suits, no astronauts, just be fair with me, let me race, then go home to my wife. My kind of racer


There's a funny quote from that article where stoner talks about hunting and fishing. He mentions that he used to hunt with a gun, but then didn't think that gave as fair chance for the animals, so he changed to a compound bow, but then that still had a sight on it, so now he just uses a long bow with no sight, that seems about fair to him.



Actually I miss those days of the old 500cc racing. The 1000cc were great too. occaisionally there are some good races with the 800cc, but with the old series, it was every race! (well except when doohan had no competition and would just win everything).
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