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September 2nd, 2010, 05:50 AM   #1
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Austin's Formula One race track will be fast, have a signature start, pay homage to some of the world's best Grand Prix circuits and offer plenty of good sight lines for fans, according to race promoter Tavo Hellmund.



"It should be nice," Hellmund said Tuesday as he looked at plans for the track. "I think drivers and fans should really like it."



Since May, when the race was announced, fans have been eager to see drawings of the track.



Hellmund, head of Full Throttle Productions, unveiled the track layout Tuesday in a meeting with the American-Statesman.



The 3.4-mile track has 20 turns, a maximum elevation change of 133 feet, a back straightaway that is three-quarters of a mile long and a width that will vary between 39 and 52 feet.



Hellmund said the F1 cars should be able to reach a top speed of 200 mph on the track.



He also estimated the cars might be roaring by the grandstand at 180 mph on their way to a tight, uphill corner at Turn 1, one of the highest points on the track. Hellmund said Turn 1 could be the circuit's signature corner and that it would also be one of the four designed spots to give drivers their best chance for passing, or overtaking as it's called in F1.



"Everybody will pull out and probably go three-wide into that braking turn," Hellmund said.



Unlike some NASCAR races, there's typically not much passing in an F1 Grand Prix. Some F1 fans blame that situation on Tilke GmbH, the German engineering firm that has designed most of the sport's modern circuits and is also overseeing the U.S. Grand Prix project.



Hellmund said the cars themselves are more to blame for the single-file racing than the engineers.



"They're so on the ragged edge that it's hard to pass," Hellmund said.



He said the best way to create such opportunities is with a good straightaway that leads to a turn with more than a 45-degree angle. Hellmund said that's the plan for turns 11, 12 and 20.



In addition, turns 3, 4, 5 and 6 and will be a nod to the Maggots/Becketts section at Silverstone in England, and turns 12, 13, 14 and 15 will have the feel of the Hockenheimring in Germany.



There's also a shout-out to Istanbul Turn 8 in turns 16, 17 and 18.



"It will be similar to one gigantic turn," Hellmund said of that sequence.



Hellmund said fans should be able to see plenty of action from most of the turns and straightaways.



"They will all offer good viewing because of the (changes in) elevation," he said.



The U.S. Grand Prix circuit is slated to be built on a 900-acre tract southeast of Austin and could hold 130,000 to 140,000 fans.



Austin's first U.S. Grand Prix is slated for 2012. December has been mentioned as a possible starting date for construction.



"I don't want to put a date on it. Everybody is hustling and bustling," said Hellmund, who said construction would begin as quickly as possible.
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Hell yea Curve! Better build that additon now for all the guests you'll be hosting!!! I know where Curve will be spending his track days in the future.

I would assume this will be bike safe track?
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Hum.... could be worse. (But was hoping for better.)



It looks like a bastardized Hockenheimring.

I DO like the long Curvey half; it reminds me of the old Solitudering that real heroes like Surtees blasted around in the day. (150MPH, nothing but trees for guardrails.) It ought to be a piss on a MC.





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After that, it devolves into to a typical Tilkedrome - random short segments, randomly attached end-to-end.





What they don't mention is: Who's gonna pay for all this? Invariably, projects like this receive some manner of Gov't funding which is, in turn, funded by the local population. THANKS CURVE!!
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hahaha! say, i think there will be at least TWO ps members staying with curvy
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talk & plans are cheap...... i'll believe it when i see construction start.... & finished.........& then a race.
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talk & plans are cheap...... i'll believe it when i see construction start.... & finished.........& then a race.


Exactly. It might have a contract with F1, but contracts don't mean shit.
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Weak. Circuit racing is dying in the US and a euro-style track is not going improve anything. We've got plenty of good tracks, and we have plenty of posh sporting venues. This is Texas so the track should have been something distinctive and remarkable. Maggots/Becketts is not going to make Texans proud, it's simply Euro-flattery and Tilke clutching at straws b/c if he designs anymore tracks himself, he'll be banned from F1. Furthermore, if they wanted to copy a Euro-track that is more inline with Texas race fans, they would have copied Monza.



I doubt Keven Schwantz had anything to do with choosing the layout b/c the track does not look good for bikes. Especially the Mickey Mouse turns in the second half of the lap.



The quality of the racing determines how people feel about the venue so it will have to be wait and see, but I've not spoken to anyone in the state who thinks this track is anything good (emphasis on people who think). It's easy to get excited about a new venue, but Miller was something to get excited about, but it hasn't improved the racing industry. Texas is a very important racing market, and I'm pretty pissed off that the State government is going to be paying F1's sanctioning fee to get the race. They should be paying us. Everyone is trying to bring races to Texas whether it's NASCAR, IndyCar, or AMA. I have no idea why our politicians are stupid enough to pay Bernie when we hold the cards. It's no wonder he gave the track to Texas, he's probably stunned that the healthiest US economy would actually pay him to organize a race when the manufacturers are forcing F1 into the US market. I actually think that Texas has made a very poor play, and a play that has harmed the plight of other state economies and race track owners. This is both stupid and cutthroat simultaneously which is a bit embarrassing for our state b/c it makes us look incompetent and economically over-aggressive like China or Singapore.



When things are screwed up on the business side, it's hard to be optimistic about the future. I've heard that the manufacturers are only under contract through 2012 which is only 1 year into the Austin contract. Maybe this is more like a royally screwed up business operation.



Anywho, hard to be pissed about a new track, but this is kind of an embarrassment for the great state of Texas, imo.
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Curve, start getting the extra floor space available, I foresee a few Mexicans staying over your pad.
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Weak. Circuit racing is dying in the US and a euro-style track is not going improve anything. We've got plenty of good tracks, and we have plenty of posh sporting venues. This is Texas so the track should have been something distinctive and remarkable. Maggots/Becketts is not going to make Texans proud, it's simply Euro-flattery and Tilke clutching at straws b/c if he designs anymore tracks himself, he'll be banned from F1. Furthermore, if they wanted to copy a Euro-track that is more inline with Texas race fans, they would have copied Monza.



I doubt Keven Schwantz had anything to do with choosing the layout b/c the track does not look good for bikes. Especially the Mickey Mouse turns in the second half of the lap.



The quality of the racing determines how people feel about the venue so it will have to be wait and see, but I've not spoken to anyone in the state who thinks this track is anything good (emphasis on people who think). It's easy to get excited about a new venue, but Miller was something to get excited about, but it hasn't improved the racing industry. Texas is a very important racing market, and I'm pretty pissed off that the State government is going to be paying F1's sanctioning fee to get the race. They should be paying us. Everyone is trying to bring races to Texas whether it's NASCAR, IndyCar, or AMA. I have no idea why our politicians are stupid enough to pay Bernie when we hold the cards. It's no wonder he gave the track to Texas, he's probably stunned that the healthiest US economy would actually pay him to organize a race when the manufacturers are forcing F1 into the US market. I actually think that Texas has made a very poor play, and a play that has harmed the plight of other state economies and race track owners. This is both stupid and cutthroat simultaneously which is a bit embarrassing for our state b/c it makes us look incompetent and economically over-aggressive like China or Singapore.



When things are screwed up on the business side, it's hard to be optimistic about the future. I've heard that the manufacturers are only under contract through 2012 which is only 1 year into the Austin contract. Maybe this is more like a royally screwed up business operation.



Anywho, hard to be pissed about a new track, but this is kind of an embarrassment for the great state of Texas, imo.


It might not be a great race circuit, but I always wished for a Tilkedrome in the US. The size of the circuit. Huge grandstands and garages are something not seen in any US road circuit at this scale.



Imagine having a complex like that at a US race circuit?



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