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July 18th, 2010, 01:55 AM   #1
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The article on Motomatters

http://motomatters.com/news/2010/07/...uld_affec.html

contains a very interesting analysis of engine usage by Lorenzo.

I wonder, is it possible to collect the information regarding engine usage by the top riders?



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Lorenzo..... 2 engines gone so far, using the third one?

Pedrosa.... 2...?

Stoner.... ?

Rossi.... ?
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Yeah think zuki might be struggling too

i was keeping some stats on a board on who has had a off/crash and if these effected the engines as the season progressed

they went under so i lost the stats..



Horney not had any major gravel outings so is his racing style effecting his engines
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Just received the latest list, and it's not pretty for anyone except Honda. Suzuki are deep, deep in the shit, Bautista on his 5th engine this year. Yams (except Rossi) on 4, or in Spies' case, nearly 4. Ducati similar. Honda like clockwork. After Laguna Seca I'm going to format the lists and put them up on the site. But there's a lot of formatting and HTML tweaking to be done.
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Just received the latest list, and it's not pretty for anyone except Honda. Suzuki are deep, deep in the shit, Bautista on his 5th engine this year. Yams (except Rossi) on 4, or in Spies' case, nearly 4. Ducati similar. Honda like clockwork. After Laguna Seca I'm going to format the lists and put them up on the site. But there's a lot of formatting and HTML tweaking to be done.


Thank you! Looking forward to that, it will reinforce Motomatters reputation as one of the most informative sites in the moto GP world.

Regarding the engine rule, nobody seems to like it; but these are the rules this year, and apparently they're going to affect the end results, so better keep an eye on the issue. (BTW, one can complain that the rule is stupid, but it is only normal that it may affect the results: what would be the use of any rule if the related penalties weren't going to affect results in any way?).
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Just received the latest list, and it's not pretty for anyone except Honda. Suzuki are deep, deep in the shit, Bautista on his 5th engine this year. Yams (except Rossi) on 4, or in Spies' case, nearly 4. Ducati similar. Honda like clockwork. After Laguna Seca I'm going to format the lists and put them up on the site. But there's a lot of formatting and HTML tweaking to be done.


great stuff Dave



as per graph Jorge was at





#1 used in 22 sessions before it expired in FP2 Assen



#2 used in 19 sessions prior to Sachsenring stats being shown

it blew in Quali (20th session) and could have been used in FP1 FP2 making 22 sessions
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Aren't honda reputed to be the leading voice in the msma? They have finally got it to work for them. No wonder dani is looking happy. Even if he did run out of engines which is unlikely compared to others he would lead into the first corner from 12th or 13th on the grid anyway.
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topic pinned, in case you lot wants to be vigilant in monitoring engine usage for the rest of the season.
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thye should make it 9 engines per season...... 6 was always to few.... time for a rule tweek!
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Here is a recap of engine situation offered by GPOne:



The current MotoGP engine situation



Sunday, 18 July 2010 14:29 by Alice Margaria





At the 8th (of 18) race of the season, here is a recap of the current engine situation in MotoGP. We remind readers that each rider has a total of six engines available for the entire season, which works out to an average of three races per engine.



The morning before the German GP at the Sachsenring, Dorna released the list of engines sealed by each rider in the category. An examination reveals the varying approaches taken by each team and manufacturer.



Jorge Lorenzo, after suffering a spectacular and fiery engine failure during yesterday's qualifying session (it was his #2 engine which broke), is now using his 4th engine.



Dani Pedrosa has thus far used 3 motors. His #1 engine was used for 4 races, and his #2 and #3 have been used for two races each till now.



His teammate Andrea Dovizioso has also used three engines, his #1 and #2 being used for three races each.



Ducati rider Casey Stoner began using his 4th engine at Sachsenring. The problems with his #2 engine at Le Mans have caused issues for the rider and the team. His #1 engine lasted only one race, because of his crash in Qatar, and so the other two units have had to run 3 races each.



Valentino Rossi missed four races because of his injury: Mugello, Silverstone, Assen and Catalunya. His bike was still used for the last round though, the Catalan GP, by test rider Yoshikawa. The Japanese was using Valentino's #2 engine in the race. Rossi is now making use of his #3 engine for Sachsenring.



Three engines have also been used by Yamaha rider Ben Spies. The American's first two engines did two races each, and with the Sachsenring his #3 engine will have done four consecutive races.



Marco Simoncelli's engne use has been very consistent: he has thus far stayed on the three races per engine schedule, and so Sachsenring (race 8) will be run with his #3 sealed engine.



His Gresini teammate Marco Melandri is also on his third motor. His #1 engine did three races, his #2 engine two (as he skipped Assen with an injury), and the German GP will be the second race on his #3 engine.



The situation at Suzuki is quite critical. Loris Capirsossi was forced to begin using his #4 engine already at the fifth race, at Silverstone. His #2 engine had failed at Mugello, and his #1 engine failed in Barcellona, after having been used in only one race.



This brief analysis underscores the very real possibility of engine life playing a part in the World Championship.
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^^^ Dumbass rules let the engine rule decide the champion ,maybe not bcs horney has a good lead but its plain to see its going to play a part in it..race for 3/4 of the season to let a stupid rule impose on the outcome
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