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February 11th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #11
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Feb 10 2010, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Was talking to a bike racing nut mate today, who told me Suzuki had an engine failure at Sepang.
Not doubting my mate (because he knows his shit) but anyone know anything ????

I didn't hear about it but even if they did pop one they are last years engines. The new one isn't due until the next test.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 11 2010, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dear god, I hope Yamaha's engine isn't that weak! Mugello is in June and is the 5th race of the season. Maybe Misano was what you had in mind in September - the 13th race out of 18.
I might be wrong here but seem to remember that an engine has to last a complete weekend.
If so we can expect to see the first actions taken already after a few races.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Feb 13 2010, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I might be wrong here but seem to remember that an engine has to last a complete weekend.
If so we can expect to see the first actions taken already after a few races.
The engines need to last, on average, three complete weekends, ie 9 days.

As I said, I hope to god that Yamaha has not built such an unreliable engine that they would require a seventh engine by day 15 (Mugello race day). I don't expect even Suzuki (who needed a seventh engine to manage the last 8 races of 2009) to be that poor in 2010.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 14 2010, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The engines need to last, on average, three complete weekends, ie 9 days.

As I said, I hope to god that Yamaha has not built such an unreliable engine that they would require a seventh engine by day 15 (Mugello race day). I don't expect even Suzuki (who needed a seventh engine to manage the last 8 races of 2009) to be that poor in 2010.
What I meant was that there is some kind of penalty if they swap engines during the weekend.
But again I suspect I remember wrong.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Feb 14 2010, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What I meant was that there is some kind of penalty if they swap engines during the weekend.
But again I suspect I remember wrong.
No, there is no penalty for swapping during a weekend within the 6 allowed motors.

It may even make sense to allocate one engine as a test mule and do all non-race (quali, warmup etc) mileage on that (until it lets go) allowing the other engines to be used just for the races. This is just my idle speculation though.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yamaka46 @ Feb 14 2010, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No, there is no penalty for swapping during a weekend within the 6 allowed motors.

It may even make sense to allocate one engine as a test mule and do all non-race (quali, warmup etc) mileage on that (until it lets go) allowing the other engines to be used just for the races. This is just my idle speculation though.
Allocating one engine for that purpose from the very start would be to waste a good engine at it's peak. They would defiantly race it at least once before it retires to it's test duties. Other then that I agree. They will try to push some engines way over it's expected life span to keep fresh engines for the races.
And as I said when the first news about this rule came out: Expect some spectacular blow ups with following spectacle of mass crashes when it spills the oil at the entry of a corner.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Feb 14 2010, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Allocating one engine for that purpose from the very start would be to waste a good engine at it's peak. They would defiantly race it at least once before it retires to it's test duties. Other then that I agree. They will try to push some engines way over it's expected life span to keep fresh engines for the races.
And as I said when the first news about this rule came out: Expect some spectacular blow ups with following spectacle of mass crashes when it spills the oil at the entry of a corner.
You are quite right - my idea was they'd use the engine for the first race weekend, then muller it in testing. Just I missed half the thought out when typing it up [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I agree that spectacular blow-ups are indeed likely and may result in mass crashes and (though I obviously hope it doesn't happen) injuries. Reminds me of <span style="color:#0000FFthis - wonder if Edwards will be any more impressed in MotoGP. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
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I think they will only submit 2 engines to begin with so they can continue engine development through the season. As the season unfolds and an engine is finished a new one will be submitted so that there is always a minimum/maximum of 2 engines available in case of a flag to flag race which requires 2 bikes.

What would be interesting is if there was a flag to flag race requiring 2 bikes at the last round or 2 of the championship and the possibility that there is only one good engine left. This could be a championship breaker.

It would be good for the fans if they had to have the engine number displayed on the fairing somewhere so we can see what engine number they are using - E1, E2, E3, E4, E5 or E6.

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yeah the Nurburgring major oil slick..lol
yamaka btw your linky is broke

ty np
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Feb 15 2010, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah the Nurburgring major oil slick..lol
yamaka btw your linky is broke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08p-414uGY
Fixed it. Thanks for the heads up.
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