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November 4th, 2009, 07:07 PM   #1
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Im curious to see Whats people opinion on Dovis season?
In my opinion I think he picked up right were Nicky left off and he didnt bring much improvement to that 2nd Honda. That win at Donington was a big fluke infact the whole podium was a Fluke! with Jorge and rossi crashing and Stoner runing without rubber the race was up for grabs for anyone.
another good question is How Dovi would have done on the Duc? Lets hear it folks
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The California Kid @ Nov 4 2009, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Im curious to see Whats people opinion on Dovis season?
In my opinion I think he picked up right were Nicky left off and he didnt bring much improvement to that 2nd Honda. That win at Donington was a big fluke infact the whole podium was a Fluke! with Jorge and rossi crashing and Stoner runing without rubber the race was up for grabs for anyone.
another good question is How Dovi would have done on the Duc? Lets hear it folks

Dovi says his biggest problem is with the aggressive power delivery on the Honda. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img] I doubt he would to anything good on the Ducati. You've got to admit this season has been terribly disappointing. Both Dovi and Hayden were supposed to return to the front, and both have gone farther backwards.

Maybe the incoming rookies will make a difference.
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November 4th, 2009, 08:04 PM   #3
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It was the right move at the time. Hayden had run his course with Honda, things weren't going to get any better there. Dovizioso was the most promising young rider available and had a history with Honda. It made absolute sense. Unfortunately, Dovi hasn't been able to cope with the new 212. I won't call it quits on him yet. Should Honda switch to Magnetti Marelli as rumored for next season, Dovi, as well as Pedrosa, might be more capable of running nearer to Rossi, Lorenzo and Stoner. If Dovi isn't significantly closer to Pedrosa next season on a consistent basis I call bust.
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I think honda made the right move. Dovi proved himself on the scot honda and it was time to give him the chance to step up to a factory ride. Although I do think that the honda was a bit behind the Yamaha and the Duc this year, I agree that Dovi should have done a bit more this season. Next season he needs to have more wins/podiums or I can't see him staying their that long, especially with all the new talent coming up to the satellites next year.
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Just looking at points, i think he is exactly where he should be in the pecking order. Most racing fans would have picked him around 5th or 6trh before the season began and 5th is where he sits.If he loses out to Edwards for 5th,that would not look good.
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Maybe 5th or 6th in the championship is ok, but he is consistently too far behind Pedrosa. The bike may or may not be good, but your team-mate is your benchmark. At the time he was the obvious choice , but, as Gardner has said, Honda needs to throw the chequebook at Stoner( or Lorenzo) or they will be in the wilderness for many many years. Neither Dovi or Pedrosa seem strong enough to ever win a title. Simoncelli seems fast so may be their future, but I don,t like him as he is a loose cannon and may kill somebody one day. He almost did it to Barbera.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bunyip @ Nov 5 2009, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Maybe 5th or 6th in the championship is ok, but he is consistently too far behind Pedrosa. The bike may or may not be good, but your team-mate is your benchmark. At the time he was the obvious choice , but, as Gardner has said, Honda needs to throw the chequebook at Stoner( or Lorenzo) or they will be in the wilderness for many many years. Neither Dovi or Pedrosa seem strong enough to ever win a title. Simoncelli seems fast so may be their future, but I don,t like him as he is a loose cannon and may kill somebody one day. He almost did it to Barbera.


Simoncelli a loose cannon...may kill somebody one day? Dude not for nothing but this seems a bit far fetched.

If any one of the two is a loose cannon, its Barbera..
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Matrix- you,re not aware of Simoncellis history?

ok. In a race (can,t remember just now) Simoncelli was leading, but Barbera was regularly passing him on the straight, so with 1 0r 2 laps to go, as Barbera is making his pass, Simoncelli suddenly swerves towards him so that Barberas front Brake locks as it hits Simoncellis bike. Barbera does cartwheels and was very lucky to survice. And yes, it was a very deliberate swerve. If you saw it you would never forget it!
I know Barberas record is not that good either, but that was the most sickening deliberate act I have seen! Simoncelli also tends to put other riders at risk in too many races on a regular basis.
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Barbera & Simoncelli are both a bit loose, bring on the 2010 season... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (alex29 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Barbera & Simoncelli are both a bit loose, bring on the 2010 season... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif[/img]

I like when Simoncelli almost ran Aoyama into the pit wall last race [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I thought that Dovi did better on the Scott Honda. At least he was more consistent. He keeps talking about hanging with the front group, which he hasn't been able to deliver. Part of me wants to believe that he is suffering under the Pedro/Puig effect but if this was the case then I think that he would have been more outspoken about it. I think it strictly comes down to his riding ability.

I don't know, he used to be able to hang with Lorenzo a lot better when they were in the 250's. Did Lorenzo suddenly gain a second on Dovi? Or is the Honda built in mind of one rider [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif[/img]
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