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September 29th, 2016, 01:58 PM   #31
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I think Jack Millers jump from Moto3 to GP hasn't really worked in his favour........ I think he would have been much better off doing 1 or 2 seasons in Moto2. he is only young, I don't know what the big rush was for to get into MotoGP.
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Thing is, to many people Moto2 is somewhat of a wasteland so why spend time in the wasteland when your aim is higher?
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Personally I subscribe to the theory that says if you want to play wit the big boys, the sooner you get there the more chance to play you get and thus the more chance you get to become one of the big boys.
Honda experiment by pushing jack too fast, but they held Marquez back another year, even though he was the fastest thing in Moto2.

Which strategy has worked better? Jack is getting hurt and is wasting a potentially good career trying to race a very fast bike before he learned how to ride any fast bike. Meanwhile, Marc could beat all sorts of records in the next decade.
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Oh, and congratulations to the Binder. In bitchy land, I will only go second with announcements from now. JLo won a ship with a bunch of seconds. So it can't be all bad. ;-) I think he will do well on bigger bikes.
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Honda experiment by pushing jack too fast, but they held Marquez back another year, even though he was the fastest thing in Moto2.

Which strategy has worked better? Jack is getting hurt and is wasting a potentially good career trying to race a very fast bike before he learned how to ride any fast bike. Meanwhile, Marc could beat all sorts of records in the next decade.
To be fair I think Marc is a much more naturally talented rider/racer to Miller. I also think that they have the intermediate Moto2 class for a reason.
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To be fair I think Marc is a much more naturally talented rider/racer to Miller. I also think that they have the intermediate Moto2 class for a reason.


Agreed, Marquez is more naturally talented but until we see Jack on the same spec bike we'll not find out how much the lad can actually do.
On the subject of Binder, did anyone notice Bastiannini's teammate, Digiannantonio pushing Brad out on the rumblestrips on multiple occasions? It put me in mind of the time all the Italian riders ganged up to try and stop the other non Italian guy (sorry I can't remember his name atm, Talmasci or Luthi maybe?) from taking a leisurely ride to clinching the 125cc title. Also, how did Capirossi get away with his dive bomb move to take his title, now he's a highly respected safety officer!!!
Don't trust the Italians to play fair when the title is at stake...LOL

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Agreed, Marquez is more naturally talented but until we see Jack on the same spec bike we'll not find out how much the lad can actually do.
On the subject of Binder, did anyone notice Bastiannini's teammate, Digiannantonio pushing Brad out on the rumblestrips on multiple occasions? It put me in mind of the time all the Italian riders ganged up to try and stop the other non Italian guy (sorry I can't remember his name atm, Talmasci or Luthi maybe?) from taking a leisurely ride to clinching the 125cc title. Also, how did Capirossi get away with his dive bomb move to take his title, now he's a highly respected safety officer!!!
Don't trust the Italians to play fair when the title is at stake...LOL
I can't believe that Capirossi was allowed to win that title after that. Surely RD should've stripped him of points.
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Jack Miller has had a bad season it's got nothing to do with skipping moto2, he's already spent a year in GP outriding a former world champ on the same equipment. If it was his first season maybe you could argue it's because he skipped moto2 but it isn't.
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Agreed, Marquez is more naturally talented but until we see Jack on the same spec bike we'll not find out how much the lad can actually do.
Is it the bike thats biggest difference with MM and JM or is it more the team and what they can get out of the bike for MM also combined with MM just being faster than him? I don't really know.
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Is it the bike thats biggest difference with MM and JM or is it more the team and what they can get out of the bike for MM also combined with MM just being faster than him? I don't really know.


I don't know exactly either buddy, but they say the wet can be a great leveller. Admittedly this season is doubly confusing due to the Michelin tyres and their sometimes inconsistencies.
At the end of the race though Jack and Marc were close, Marc held back due to the title race which denied us a look at how a head to head battle might pan out. I suspect Marquez would have won if he pushed though...
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I don't know exactly either buddy, but they say the wet can be a great leveller. Admittedly this season is doubly confusing due to the Michelin tyres and their sometimes inconsistencies.
At the end of the race though Jack and Marc were close, Marc held back due to the title race which denied us a look at how a head to head battle might pan out. I suspect Marquez would have won if he pushed though...
I feel the bikes are a lot closer this year but the electronics and tyres are part blame for that too. I think the same, if MM pushed I think it would have been a good battle.
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I feel the bikes are a lot closer this year but the electronics and tyres are part blame for that too. I think the same, if MM pushed I think it would have been a good battle.


Jackass is a great lad and eminently likeable, I really hope he does come good. It's going to have to be soon though as there's quite a crop of talented younger riders just dying for a chance at the big time. The teams recognise this and lately seem more inclined to take a punt on them to see if they're the real deal. Maybe Marquez and Maverick's performance have brought this even more to the forefront when they're choosing their riders each year or so.
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