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September 24th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #1
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Valentino Rossi is now a Moto3 team owner. It's official that a VR46 team will race in 2014 with factory KTM bikes and Romano Fenati as #1 rider.


The sponsor is SKY.


http://www.gpone.com/en/201309231154...-in-Moto3.html



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September 24th, 2013, 12:37 AM   #2
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GoodLuck Fenati


this team will prob get more coverage and stories than the Factory motogp teams.





Vale can say his poor results are because he's trying to race, run a team, promote the Farce / Sport





the Sky thing i think Sky Italy have taken the motogp coverage in 2014 ££$$€€


Sky Germany are waiting in the Wing to grab Sport1 Coverage in 2015 ££$$€€





that will then about see all Europe's coverage locked behind the pay wall


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Very please for Fenati, he needs to step up now he has the bike to do the job.
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Can't believe Vale is supporting one of his fellow countrymen! What bullshit, especially when there are so many candidates from Nepal that are prime for the spot. Would make Moto 3 a proper world championship, and not the Spanish/Italian championship. What a farce.......
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ATM, you can call it a Spanish championship.


Rossi's initiative is an attempt to revamp the Italian side.


It's not the fault of the Spaniards!


Other countries need to step up their action, that's all (assuming they care for motorcycle GP -- USA anybody?). Excellence in any sport doesn't grow on trees: now Spain excels because they worked hard and well at the grass root level for the last 10 years and more.


Let others do the same and we'll see.
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ATM, you can call it a Spanish championship.


Rossi's initiative is an attempt to revamp the Italian side.


It's not the fault of the Spaniards!


Other countries need to step up their action, that's all (assuming they care for motorcycle GP -- USA anybody?). Excellence in any sport doesn't grow on trees: now Spain excels because they worked hard and well at the grass root level for the last 10 years and more.


Let others do the same and we'll see.

Couldn't agree more jarno, been saying it myself, but its all a fix you know.
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You guys crack me up. Baturro, ok, your emoticon seems to saying you're partially being witty, kinda like the "just sayin" "lol" modern designation for saying what you want while being clever and lighthearted...ish. Okay...but the rest, I don't think they're being clever at all buddy.





I realize most of you cannot distinguish or comprehend the assertions I've made regarding the League's machinates, and frankly in the face of so much overt evidence when it has happened (of which we have been able to detect) it is boggling that so many of you are unaware it happens. This example of VR supporting Fenati does not qualify, and frankly you guys not being able to distinguish further supports my view that many of you don't have the capacity to understand the nuanced but decided influence by those leaders in a position to affect their business in particular ways, in this case it being a sporting league. VR supporting a fellow countryman is not at all a problem, but rather when the League"s influence decidedly favors the Spanish (as it has done) for being Spanish (or its particular interest in king building) IS the problem, as it did when it bailed out Rossi from Ducati. I bet some of you would argue, yeah but VR is not Spanish, which of course says more about your ability to understand my assertion to begin with. There are many ways to influence king making, and you won't read it in a press release. I've marveled at how seemingly literate most of you appear; yet being naive to the normal machinates of big business is quite mind boggling for me. But I've resigned myself in accepting many of you simply are incapable of understanding the reality of the world you live in. You guys are the type of people who accept political messages designed to influence you absolutely not realizing the influence on you. (Baturro, of those above, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were partially being wittingly facetious for affect. I get that, but I seriously doubt the other guys were being as clever).



J4rno and Baturro, plenty of "American" money exists in GP, you see that Monster Energy logo everywhere? That is California loot, so Americans are injecting plenty of money. There is nothing wrong with that, this is normal. VR supporting Fenati is like Antonio Banderas when he supported Noyes, that is it was done for personal interest in the rider. Dorna however operate and influence the movement of particular riders in a much broader sense and much more nuanced. Nuanced, at least some of the times, as clearly its fascination with say VR has been overt (though in a way a slight cover up attempted). Now for example, you guys above are aware of the bail-out from Ducati to Yamaha of VR, this being done decidedly by the League (the League being synonymous with Carmelo/Dorna). The only one above being perhaps J4rno who does not accept this as an internal League machinate. The sudden changing of rules for example is another very obvious machinate. This is one example of many among other examples, some of you cherry-picking which you believe and which you don't. The fascinating situation that has evolved for me watching you guys grapple with such inconsistency, has been reading your rationalizations in some cases accepting the League's machinates and direct influence in some cases while believing the entity has full integrity when it suits you.



The Deal, I see you are still indirectly taking little quips, no need to directly debate this as you can see I have not actually replied to you above...
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The best part of this news is that fenati will finally get a ride that I think he deserves. I could like like an idiot if he sucks next year tho....
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You guys crack me up. Baturro, ok, your emoticon seems to saying you're partially being witty, kinda like the "just sayin" "lol" modern designation for saying what you want while being clever and lighthearted...ish. Okay...but the rest, I don't think they're being clever at all buddy.





I realize most of you cannot distinguish or comprehend the assertions I've made regarding the League's machinates, and frankly in the face of so much overt evidence when it has happened (of which we have been able to detect) it is boggling that so many of you are unaware it happens. This example of VR supporting Fenati does not qualify, and frankly you guys not being able to distinguish further supports my view that many of you don't have the capacity to understand the nuanced but decided influence by those leaders in a position to affect their business in particular ways, in this case it being a sporting league. VR supporting a fellow countryman is not at all a problem, but rather when the League"s influence decidedly favors the Spanish (as it has done) for being Spanish (or its particular interest in king building) IS the problem, as it did when it bailed out Rossi from Ducati. I bet some of you would argue, yeah but VR is not Spanish, which of course says more about your ability to understand my assertion to begin with. There are many ways to influence king making, and you won't read it in a press release. I've marveled at how seemingly literate most of you appear; yet being naive to the normal machinates of big business is quite mind boggling for me. But I've resigned myself in accepting many of you simply are incapable of understanding the reality of the world you live in. You guys are the type of people who accept political messages designed to influence you absolutely not realizing the influence on you. (Baturro, of those above, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were partially being wittingly facetious for affect. I get that, but I seriously doubt the other guys were being as clever).



J4rno and Baturro, plenty of "American" money exists in GP, you see that Monster Energy logo everywhere? That is California loot, so Americans are injecting plenty of money. There is nothing wrong with that, this is normal. VR supporting Fenati is like Antonio Banderas when he supported Noyes, that is it was done for personal interest in the rider. Dorna however operate and influence the movement of particular riders in a much broader sense and much more nuanced. Nuanced, at least some of the times, as clearly its fascination with say VR has been overt (though in a way a slight cover up attempted). Now for example, you guys above are aware of the bail-out from Ducati to Yamaha of VR, this being done decidedly by the League (the League being synonymous with Carmelo/Dorna). The only one above being perhaps J4rno who does not accept this as an internal League machinate. The sudden changing of rules for example is another very obvious machinate. This is one example of many among other examples, some of you cherry-picking which you believe and which you don't. The fascinating situation that has evolved for me watching you guys grapple with such inconsistency, has been reading your rationalizations in some cases accepting the League's machinates and direct influence in some cases while believing the entity has full integrity when it suits you.



The Deal, I see you are still indirectly taking little quips, no need to directly debate this as you can see I have not actually replied to you above...

So once again you resort to personal insults about our ability to see things your way, Jum as I stated before I own some forums, one is one of the most popular conspiracy forums on the planet, telling me I lack the ability to see a conspiracy is just plane stupid, what gets me is having your theory rammed down my throat on every page on this forum, and when I have a quip I get insulted, but you carry on and brow beat us all, you used tomake some really good postsabout racing.
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Couldn't agree more jarno, been saying it myself, but its all a fix you know.





What exactly would you expect when you make such a comment above? If you're not prepared to handle the opposite argument then why throw your hat in the ring?


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So once again you resort to personal insults about our ability to see things your way, Jum as I stated before I own some forums, one is one of the most popular conspiracy forums on the planet, telling me I lack the ability to see a conspiracy is just plane stupid, what gets me is having your theory rammed down my throat on every page on this forum, and when I have a quip I get insulted, but you carry on and brow beat us all, you used tomake some really good postsabout racing.



Every page that you throw in a quip is fair game. Again, your objection here is rich and further disconnected from reality. I don't normally contribute to Moto3 threads because they have become defacto extensions of the CEV. But I do read them from time to time, and look here, I didn't start this thread and I didn't participate as YOU have in the circle jerk of your naive "theory" that GP is all about integrity mocking my assertions to the contrary that its "fixed". YOU did that on your own, and I'm responding to it. What about this dynamic don't you understand?! Your objection rings hollow when you yourself are willing to jump in with your own quip, then getting flustered because I had the audacity to respond. For a guy who owns forums, you sure don't understand how they work much.



For the record, I also think you are/were a sober poster. But your unwillingness to debate this directly while taking round about pot shots, then crying foul when I call you on it doesn't quite jive. Its obvious you have chosen to side (as most have) that Dorna have not used their influence to advance Spanish riders. Thats fine, but when you throw in a quip here and there, expect one in return. (Funny but your quip above was exactly this, you were expressing your disagreement with my assertion. Yet it was ok for you to clog the threads, but you take issue with me responding to it. Lovely.) That is how forums work buddy.
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